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CichInTheMind said:
Labidochromis textilus and Melanochromis Joanjohnsonae are widely regarded as synonyms for the same fish. (along with exasperatus)
They have never been reguarded as the same fish. They are two completely different, fully documented species. They are often mistaken for one another in the juvenile form which can lead to lots of confusion and probably a good bit of hybridizing. But the facial structure, among other things (like the male joanjohnsonae being blue), is very fifferent.

M. joanhonasonae (sometimes calles exasperatus)
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=759

Labidochromis textilis
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=744
 

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MalawiLover said:
CichInTheMind said:
Labidochromis textilus and Melanochromis Joanjohnsonae are widely regarded as synonyms for the same fish. (along with exasperatus)
They have never been reguarded as the same fish. They are two completely different, fully documented species. They are often mistaken for one another in the juvenile form which can lead to lots of confusion and probably a good bit of hybridizing. But the facial structure, among other things (like the male joanjohnsonae being blue), is very fifferent.

M. joanhonasonae (sometimes calles exasperatus)
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=759

Labidochromis textilis
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=744
I suppose it would help to distinguish between textilis and joanjohnsonae if the profiles had pictures of textilis.
The pictures in the Lab. tectilis profile are M. joanjohnsonae.
The pictures in the M. joanjohnsonae profile are pictures of colored male M. joanjohnsonae.
 

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straitjacketstar said:
I suppose it would help to distinguish between textilis and joanjohnsonae if the profiles had pictures of textilis.
The pictures in the Lab. tectilis profile are M. joanjohnsonae.
The pictures in the M. joanjohnsonae profile are pictures of colored male M. joanjohnsonae.
The second pic in the textilis profile really has the head shape of a textilis, the first one however, I do agree looks much more like a joanjohnsonae. The joanjohnsonae have much more of a checkerboard pattern to their coloration, while the txtilis are more broken line stripes.

Of course it is not helping at all that at one place in my area they have what really looks to be Lab. textilis (head shape and stripes) labled as "Super Red Exaspuratus". When I asked what exactly that meant, the guy showed me the packing list and it had actually listed All Red Exasp./L. text. I have see the All Red/Super Red Exaspuratus a few times before, but since I hadn't heard of them, I kept walking. I hope this is not some new trend that will really screw up another specied in the hobby.
 

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MalawiLover said:
straitjacketstar said:
I suppose it would help to distinguish between textilis and joanjohnsonae if the profiles had pictures of textilis.
The pictures in the Lab. textilis profile are M. joanjohnsonae.
The pictures in the M. joanjohnsonae profile are pictures of colored male M. joanjohnsonae.
The second pic in the textilis profile really has the head shape of a textilis, the first one however, I do agree looks much more like a joanjohnsonae. The joanjohnsonae have much more of a checkerboard pattern to their coloration, while the txtilis are more broken line stripes.
They are both of joanjohnsonae. The second is a little odd in shape, very snipey, but color and pattern is consistent with joanjohnsonae.

Lab. textilis
http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/species.php?s=457
http://cichlidae.com/article.php?id=149
http://www.malawi-dream.info/Labidochro ... xtilis.htm
http://www.franchi-cichlids.com/galerie ... g_view.htm

On another note of the red exasperatus, all the ones I've seen look like nothing more than estherae x JJ hybrids.
 
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