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I'll be getting a 20g in the next few weeks and want to stock it with Apistogramma nijsseni, Apistogramma panduro, or Apistogramma baenschi. I can't seem to find these anywhere though! Can someone suggest a good breeder or online fish supplier?

And how many of any of them, could I put in a 20g?
 

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ebjdftw said:
As far as stocking goes, you could probably do one pair of any one of those in a 20g. I think any more and the same sex apistos will fight. (male vs males, female vs females).
Oh okay. Any idea where to find them?
 

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adam79 said:
http://www.wetspottropicalfish.com/

Out of the three only A. Panduro at the moment, but they regularly have a good selection of apistos.
Thanks! If not these, then I'm considering Haplochromis sp. "Dayglow"
 

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Apistogramma nijsseni, Apistogramma panduro are the same beast. Apistogramma nijsseni is the proper name for the species. They are a bit more demanding that some of the other Apistogramma species in that like their water a bit more on the acid side.
 

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Incorrect, A. nijsseni and A. panduro are distinct species. Males are very similar in appearance (there are minor differences), but the females are very distinct from one another. Romer gave a formal description to the fish known as sp. "Pandurini" in 1997, changing it to panduro so as to cause confusion. :-? :lol:

Behaviorally, they are also a bit different. A. panduro is a much more mellow fish than nijsseni. I've had female nijsseni kill males twice their size. It would also be better to keep two or three females in a long 20 with one male on the panduro. They are like most Apistos, harem keepers. Male has a large territory with a few females holding smaller ones around their preferred spawning sites within. Female Apistos often face off over territorial boundaries, but rarely get into actual fights. Give them caves that are a foot or so apart.

I've not kept baenschi, as the "Inca 50" came along when I was not in an Apisto keeping phase, so the price was a bit more than what I would pay. That's dropped to a more reasonable level, I'm just into other things these days. It has the colors of nijsseni and panduro, but also dorsal spikes like the Cockatoos. Maybe I'll clear a tank for them one of these days.
 

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Chromedome52 said:
Incorrect, A. nijsseni and A. panduro are distinct species. Males are very similar in appearance (there are minor differences), but the females are very distinct from one another. Romer gave a formal description to the fish known as sp. "Pandurini" in 1997, changing it to panduro so as to cause confusion. :-? :lol:

Behaviorally, they are also a bit different. A. panduro is a much more mellow fish than nijsseni. I've had female nijsseni kill males twice their size. It would also be better to keep two or three females in a long 20 with one male on the panduro. They are like most Apistos, harem keepers. Male has a large territory with a few females holding smaller ones around their preferred spawning sites within. Female Apistos often face off over territorial boundaries, but rarely get into actual fights. Give them caves that are a foot or so apart.

I've not kept baenschi, as the "Inca 50" came along when I was not in an Apisto keeping phase, so the price was a bit more than what I would pay. That's dropped to a more reasonable level, I'm just into other things these days. It has the colors of nijsseni and panduro, but also dorsal spikes like the Cockatoos. Maybe I'll clear a tank for them one of these days.
Thank you for all the info! Sadly, none of my lfs carry them. Ever. I'm looking more toward Haplochromis sp. dayglow/limax/red back scraper/ruby/tomato. Not sure if I can keep 1 male and 2 females of any of these in a 20g though
 

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Holy **** I just realized my mistake, that's what I get for answering these things too early in the morning.
 

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Contact apistodave on apistogramma.com he may have some ready to go he breeds and sells several different species and I'm sure he raises all 3 of those species.
 

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