Hi Everyone, Can someone please tell me what the difference is between a Flameback and a Crimson tide? I was sold some breeding fish as Crimson Tides. One of the shops I sell them to are adamant they are Flamebacks. I have googled and what I can see, it resembles both depending on what picture I look at. This is my fish. Can someone please once and for all, tell me if it is a Crimson or not and what is the difference
What is the difference between a Flameback and Crimson Tide
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There is a whole lot of difference;
http://www.african-cichlid.com/Flameback.htm
http://www.african-cichlid.com/CrimsonTide.htm
(although a young crimson tide does look a lot different from an adult crimson tide)
Your picture looks like a hybrid to me.
Look through the profiles on this site for reputable ID pictures.
http://www.african-cichlid.com/Flameback.htm
http://www.african-cichlid.com/CrimsonTide.htm
(although a young crimson tide does look a lot different from an adult crimson tide)
Your picture looks like a hybrid to me.
Look through the profiles on this site for reputable ID pictures.
Flameback is the common name for at least a couple undescribed "Victorian-types". Haplochromis sp. "flameback" and Halplochromis sp. "kyoga flameback". I think your fish has a lot of resemblance to H. sp."kyoga flameback" https://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1550 Though I am not certain that's what it is. (Could even be hybrid?)
Crimson tide is supposed to be the common name for the undescribed Pundamilia sp. "crimson tide". https://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1570 I think it is clear that your fish is definitely not that.
Crimson tide is supposed to be the common name for the undescribed Pundamilia sp. "crimson tide". https://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1570 I think it is clear that your fish is definitely not that.
Thank you for your imput. It is hard because we have rarer choice within Australia. What we believe to be genuine, may not always be that way. I can't say I am happy with the outcome but at least I have a better understanding of that outcome. I have looked at all the links and to me he looks to be either Crimson but not the quality as some of those photos or Kyoga - yet again not to the same quality. Like you said, perhaps he is Hybrid between both - which does not make me happy at all.
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