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Will the Xenos/Callochromis eat the Cyp. fry?​
Yes both will eat the fry685.71%
Only the xenos will eat the fry00.00%
Only the Callochromis will eat the fry00.00%
Niether will eat the fry114.29%
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Alright well here is the plan, i have a standard 55g that i want to put some Cyprichromis in, but seeing this is a large tank relative to their requirements i want some sand dwellers or at least another group of fish to add i was thinking xenos or callochromis? but i am not sure if they will eat fry because i want to breed the Cyprichromis which do not eat their fry, so was wondering if some xenos or challo. wouuld ruin my Cyp breeding plans?

I originally thought of xenos and callos because of this article http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/c_leptosoma.php which in paragrpah 21 (not including tables) talks about them not being predatory

but then this article http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/x_bathyphilus.php talks about how great the babies were at being predatory!

so what's the final verdict? will they eat the Cyp fry?
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Cyprichromis also eat their fry. So it doesn't matter what sand dweller you pick, choose the one you like the best!
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I don't think a standard 55 as being a large tank for your cyprichromis. I would consider it towards the minimum instead. I had a group of 12 non jumbo in a 55 with great success and had room for another species for the floor of the tank, but by no means is it a large tank for cyprichromis. IME
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I have the following experience. I raised the Cypri fry , & Neolamprologus mustax fry unitil 1.5CM and put into another tank where i have Enantiopus Kilesa 8CM large. They live together very good.
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Qaddiction said:
I don't think a standard 55 as being a large tank for your cyprichromis. I would consider it towards the minimum instead. I had a group of 12 non jumbo in a 55 with great success and had room for another species for the floor of the tank, but by no means is it a large tank for cyprichromis. IME
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well considering that the writer of the article said that a 29 is a minimum i'd say it is!
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Wolffisho1 said:
Qaddiction said:
I don't think a standard 55 as being a large tank for your cyprichromis. I would consider it towards the minimum instead. I had a group of 12 non jumbo in a 55 with great success and had room for another species for the floor of the tank, but by no means is it a large tank for cyprichromis. IME
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well considering that the writer of the article said that a 29 is a minimum i'd say it is!
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That article should really be updated.
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Darkside said:
Cyprichromis also eat their fry. So it doesn't matter what sand dweller you pick, choose the one you like the best!
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some people also say that tropheus eat their own fry! but IME for trophs that is wrong
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Big fish eat little fish.

This is a good thing to remember when thinking about breeding and raising fry. You will have losses if the fry are not removed from parents and other tankmates. If you plan carefully with less predatory fish like xenos, you will increase the survival rate of fry.

Some cyps eat fry, some don't. Some cyps do fine in a 40 gallon tank, some don't. I personally find a 55 gallon to be adequate for standard, tank raised cyps. I also had luck with a school of 10 wild caught cyps in a 55, and I am breeding a subgroup of F1's in a 40-long. Would they be happier in a bigger tank? Sure, who wouldn't? But good color, longevity, minimal aggression and prolific breeding are good indicators of overall fish health and thus a 55 is good enough.

So, back to your great original question: even vegetarian fish (trophs, gobies, plecos) will eat fry if given the chance. Some fish are more aggresive about it than others, but if the fry fit in their mouths there's a chance they'll be lunch.
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