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So I've not been having any luck with apistos(cauc double red). I've managed to kill 2 males and a female already so far. The last to go was a male, the typical bloat symptoms you'd find in african cichlids. Hiding, not eating, bloated abdomen, stringy feces, loss of color etc. I attributed this to parasites that are common in european imported apistos. I've used the bloat treatment on this site with success 3 times on african malawi cichlids. I decided to try it out on my last male apisto, was looking promising but the 80% water change that is suggested on day 4 was too much for him and he immediatly shocked and died. I replaced the water through a python and looking back perhaps if I had added it more gradually I would have been better off perhaps.

So fast forward, after losing these apistos I obtained a male and 2 female trio from a local reputed hobby breeder. And now we have the same thing, was doing great for a few weeks and the same thing. This time I decided to try metro, treating the whole tank. I went this route after killing the last one with the clout treatment and the difficulty in catching a small fish in a planted tank. I used a method I found on this site as follows, adjusted to my tank size....http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/view ... c&&start=0

On day 4, he still did not eat and no change. If tonight(day 5), should I try to catch him and quarantine and try to the bloat treatment with clout? Or should I wait and see, though i'm not optomistic he'll pull through if I do nothing further. At the same time, i'm wondering if the metro and now hitting him with clout might be alot for him to handle? I''m including a couple of pictures, only had my camera phone handy so this was the best I could do for the moment. One of the females is also looking like she's about to be in the same boat, and is laying beside him last night. But this morning she was swimming around with the other female so if she doesn't eat tonight she will also be a candidate for further treatment.If I do move him to quarantine I'll continue to feed the main tank metro soaked pellets. Parameters are ammonia/nitrite 0, nitrates under 10, ph 6.8. Angels and cardinals in the tank are doing well. Any help greatly appreciated




 

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You may not have gone strong enough on the metronidazole. You want to go 250mg metronidazole / 10gallons of aquarium water- dosing twice daily with a water change between each treatment. I would also siphon the gravel. How much met did you use per 10 gallons and what form/brand of met?
Even if you did dose correctly often you have to treat longer.

Can't see much in the picture but what is the brown stuff on the gravel? What are your water parameters?

How is the fish today?
Robin

I sat down to answer your post numerous times today, kept getting interrupted, sorry
 

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Thanks, unfortunatly he did not make it. The female seems to be coming around though. I dosed twice a day and did the water changes as the poster who's post i used as a reference. I adjusted dosage down to .5 teaspoon twice a day on my 38 gallon tank. I did notice near the end that he had a nice dent on his forehead, still not really sure what was up.
 
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