[Andreas Isaksen]

i got a rainforrest tank with many plants and coconutshells,
Got any good cichlid ( non digging ) to fit in my tank?
it is 112 liters ( doesnt care where the cichlids are from ) just they fit into my tank and are good with a rainforrest tank.

 

[PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn]

have you tested your water, is it hard, soft, acid alkaline?? this is the basic way to choose what to go in. ideally you want soft acidic water for "rain forest" type fish (think of the Amazon and similar)

admittedly the fish will adapt, but I prefer to keep them in as close to natural water conditions as I can.

what are the dimensions of this tank, as volume plays second fiddle to footprint with regard cichlids.

the obvious choices are some of the SA dwarves (apistogramma, mikrogeophagus etc) as well as some of the west African species (Pelvicachromis, Hemichromis) however there are some other interesting dwarfs out there as well (congochromis, Anomalochromis, Bioticus, Taeniacara, Dicrossus)

some of the larger species may also work, but it would be dependant on the size of the tank

 

[Andreas Isaksen]

its 112 liters 80x35x40 cm
ph is around 6,5 - 7,0

 

[MalawiLover]

its 112 liters 80x35x40 cm

For all us non-metric people out there its a pretty standard US 29g.

ph is around 6,5 - 7,0

That is actually quite a large range. There is a big difference between 6.5 and 7. 6.5 is 5 times more acidic than 7.0

 

[Andreas Isaksen]

its ph 6.5 to 7.0
dno what you talk about

 

[MalawiLover]

You must be using the dip strip type test. Because they use such a wide range for each color they are really very inaccurate. Most people recommend the liquid reagent test kits (with the test tubes). It uses a 0.2 incriment scale so you get more accurate reading. Many species (especially the soft, acidic water ones) are very sensative to fluctuations, so having a kit that is more accurate will really help keep them healthy.

 

[Andreas Isaksen]

0.5 on a ph scale isnt much...
beside that, im thinking of just add some kribs in the tank, they would fit right in

 

[kingdave]

0.5 on a ph scale isnt much...

The pH scale is an inverse logarithmic representation of hydrogen proton (H+) concentration. Unlike linear scales, which have a constant relationship between the item being measured (H+ concentration in this case) and the value reported, each individual pH unit is a factor of 10 different than the next higher or lower unit. For example, a change in pH from 2 to 3 represents a 10-fold decrease in H+ concentration, and a shift from 2 to 4 represents a one-hundred (10 Ã- 10)-fold decrease in H+ concentration.

 

[Toby_H]

That’s a very good explanation of the PH chart… for scientists and others who understand it to begin with…

Since 7.0 is the balance point… and everything increases/decreases from there exponentially… the difference between 6.5 & 7 is not that large…

The difference between 5.5 & 6 will be far greater and the difference between 4.5& 5 is huge…

The dip sticks usually read a little lower than the drip tests… Although I agree it’s best to get an accurate test to truly know what your working with… the tank isn’t showing any alarming extremes and seems to be approximately neutral.

It’s a mole hill, not a mountain

Kribs or most of the other W African River Dwarves should work fine… I would favor some of the less delicate SA Dwarves to remain consistent with the bio type (when I hear rainforest I think S America, although rainforests are not limited to S Am)…

Aquarium bred fish will suit the more neutral conditions… and are generally hardier than wild caught (usually prettier too)… and they cost less…

Sounds like a really cool tank. Share some pictures if you have the chance…

PS (Added) -

its 112 liters 80x35x40 cm

For all us non-metric people out there its a pretty standard US 29g.

Thanks for that… I was doing the math in my head when I glanced down and saw your post.

 

[kingdave]

Since 7.0 is the balance point… and everything increases/decreases from there exponentially… the difference between 6.5 & 7 is not that large…

The difference between 5.5 & 6 will be far greater and the difference between 4.5& 5 is huge…

No, the difference between 5.5 & 6 is the same as the difference between 4.5 & 5.

The pH scale is logarithmic and as a result, each whole pH value below 7 is ten times more acidic than the next higher value. For example, pH 4 is ten times more acidic than pH 5 and 100 times (10 times 10) more acidic than pH 6. The same holds true for pH values above 7, each of which is ten times more alkaline (another way to say basic) than the next lower whole value. For example, pH 10 is ten times more alkaline than pH 9 and 100 times (10 times 10) more alkaline than pH 8.

 

[DMWave45]

I think you actually just proved nc nutcase's point.

 

[Number6]

No Dmwave... he did not... let's avoid the semantic argument though as it's not really relevant.

I agree with ncnutcase that knowing it is within there is good enough.

Depending on size of tank and desired aquascaping: A.cacatoides would be a solid choice if you were thinking SA rain forest... larger tank and you could consider angels, festivums, etc.

What continent most interests you?

 

[Andreas Isaksen]

well not any specific, im just looking for a non digging, peachfull cichlid, with decent colurs,
i already have kribs but was looking for something else to my new tank