Not what Seachem and Stability state. I'm not advocating Stability yet, but supposedly you are able to add all your stock day 1.Guams said:I prefer janitorial strength ammonia. Check the library for a how-to on fishless cycling. Most store-bought products are just cycle "assistants" for lack of a better word. You still need fish, and when it's done, you need to stock slowly. If you do a fishless cycle, you plop your whole stock in at once.
Just my $0.02.
I've had very good results using Tetra SafeStart in the past when up against it for time. Nobody died and no spikes were measured.dreamweavr124 said:>snip<
Any preferences or products to stay away from? Thanks in advance...
It actually does have an expiration date thats printed on the front of the bottle if I remember right. One bottle is very hard to read the expiration date but the other two are pretty easy to read. It doesn't have to be stored in the refrigerator but it will last longer if it is and once you open the bottle and expose it to air you need to use all of it.newforestrob said:jkulysses
I ordered my Dr Tims from Drs Foster & Smith when it was on sale a month or so ago
just curious does this have an expiration date,how do you store it,
Safestart is intended to be used when your adding all your fish at once. You can add slowly like what you said your going to do but just keep in mind that if you treat your whole tank with the safestart but add only one fish all the live bacteria will die off other than the little bit it will take to cycle one fish worth so you would want to add your other fish very slowly or you'll have a mini cycle from the new fish adding more bio load than your tank can support at first.dreamweavr124 said:I do not plan on adding all the fish at once, but slowly introducing them. Seems that I will try the Terta SafeStart. I will let you know in a week or so my results. Thanks,
If they're hardy, why would you lose them? Do you mean they could tough it out and survive long enough to cycle the tank before dying of ammonia poisoning or suffocating from nitrite poisoning? Killing fish to cycle a tank is certainly an alternative, but not a good one IMO. The idea that some fish are not affected by ammonia and/or nitrite is a myth. It's toxic to all.Another alternative is to pick a few, good, hardy fish that you won't mind loosing, and home them in your tank to jumpstart the cycle process.
No, if you plan a sickled tank, and you begin the cycling process with a few hardy tropical fish such as zebras, when you finally get around to having it cycled and begin placing sickleds in, most likely they will do away with the zebras. But again, it really depends on the sickled. Of course ammonia is toxic to all. It's like if a few people are smoking in a tiny, closed area. Now 1 person has a really bad case of asthma, so he most likely will get sick. The others are perfectly healthy and can flourish; but eventually that smoke will build up in their respiratory tract and shorten their lives. So a hardy fish is like the avid smokers- they will probably survive, but *might* have ill effects later in life.prov356 said:If they're hardy, why would you lose them? Do you mean they could tough it out and survive long enough to cycle the tank before dying of ammonia poisoning or suffocating from nitrite poisoning? Killing fish to cycle a tank is certainly an alternative, but not a good one IMO. The idea that some fish are not affected by ammonia and/or nitrite is a myth. It's toxic to all.