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Please help me identify my new cichlid he appears to be Ram variety but unsure hope this site can help me identify my cichlid so I can hopefully get him a mate but we will see.

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Thank you all so Much
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It could be a Bolivian Ram (Mikrogeophagus altispinosus). These fish never look their best when just introduced to a new environment, which seems to be the case here. They need a while to feel comfortable in a new tank and color up. Of course they'll do best as a pair or in a small group, and will really come into their own when showing breeding coloration :thumb:

 

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It is a standard Ram, Mikrogeophagus ramirezi, stressed in a cloudy tank. It is NOT a Bolivian, look at the caudal fin (may be difficult if you have a dark monitor). There are several other differences, such as the vertical bars being wider than they are on altispinosa, and the eye bar being angled at the eye rather than nearly vertical.

This fish needs temperatures in the low 80s, and Neon Tetras need temperatures in the low 70s, so the two species are not compatible by that requirement alone.
 

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Kerricko said:
Very well stated Fmueller and good pic. Are those your rams?
Yes, they are my B. rams. I used to breed those guys for a number of years, and had a nice strain going. This male won 3rd place in the SA Dwarf Cichlid class at the OCA Extravaganza some years back. It's not easy for a B. rams to take a place away from the much more showy Apistos that are also in that class!

 

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Chromedome52 said:
It is a standard Ram, Mikrogeophagus ramirezi, stressed in a cloudy tank. It is NOT a Bolivian, look at the caudal fin (may be difficult if you have a dark monitor). There are several other differences, such as the vertical bars being wider than they are on altispinosa, and the eye bar being angled at the eye rather than nearly vertical.
I have never kept M. ramirezi, and would not be able to tell the difference between them and M. altispinosa when they show so little color. Since Chromedome52 seems to know what to look for, I would trust his judgment on this issue. Thanks for correcting me, Chromedome52 :thumb:
 

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fmueller said:
Kerricko said:
Very well stated Fmueller and good pic. Are those your rams?
Yes, they are my B. rams. I used to breed those guys for a number of years, and had a nice strain going. This male won 3rd place in the SA Dwarf Cichlid class at the OCA Extravaganza some years back. It's not easy for a B. rams to take a place away from the much more showy Apistos that are also in that class!
Thats fantastic. Nice looking fish.
 
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