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New 75g setup questions
hello all,
have had a good run so far in the past year with my 125g Malawi/Victorian tank and an angelfish tank with the help of this forum
looking at some options/advice around a tang setup for a 75g setup. The tank comes with an Aqueon 75 HOB that I will retrofit to increase media/sponge content instead of the spec carbon filter pads that Aqueon provides. I also have powerheads with sponge/filter floss intakes and garden variety sponge filters.
My two options (if a Tang setup is the final winner) are:
1. Shellies and Cyps
2. Tropheus species
For option 1, i have tons of shells and can load up some nice rounded river rock boulders to create some visual detail and breaks while keeping the top 50-60% of the tank volume open for swimming.
Shellies = simils OR multies gives me low aggression; brevis - bit more of a terror potential?
Cyps = non jumbo for a 48"L tank and then its a question of species with best visual look/bang for the buck. Also have access to some nice Anubias that have grown up in my other tanks to create some greenery.
For option 2, I see mostly rounded boulders strewn/piled over the substrate. No real caves but i have only seen a few. Maybe some Anubias interspersed with the boulders. Again looking for species with best visual appeal.
I would love to hear from the Tang keepers on what would make sense and give a nice well rounded appearance.
Appreciate everyone's time taken to read and respond. Thank you.
have had a good run so far in the past year with my 125g Malawi/Victorian tank and an angelfish tank with the help of this forum
looking at some options/advice around a tang setup for a 75g setup. The tank comes with an Aqueon 75 HOB that I will retrofit to increase media/sponge content instead of the spec carbon filter pads that Aqueon provides. I also have powerheads with sponge/filter floss intakes and garden variety sponge filters. My two options (if a Tang setup is the final winner) are:
1. Shellies and Cyps
2. Tropheus species
For option 1, i have tons of shells and can load up some nice rounded river rock boulders to create some visual detail and breaks while keeping the top 50-60% of the tank volume open for swimming.
Shellies = simils OR multies gives me low aggression; brevis - bit more of a terror potential?
Cyps = non jumbo for a 48"L tank and then its a question of species with best visual look/bang for the buck. Also have access to some nice Anubias that have grown up in my other tanks to create some greenery.
For option 2, I see mostly rounded boulders strewn/piled over the substrate. No real caves but i have only seen a few. Maybe some Anubias interspersed with the boulders. Again looking for species with best visual appeal.
I would love to hear from the Tang keepers on what would make sense and give a nice well rounded appearance.
Primary question is around filtration - do I have enough with EITHER of my options or do I need a canister @ 8-10x volume for flow rates?
Which option would be better? OR Are Tropheus a bad idea for 1-yr old hobbyists? OR Is a 75g enough for happy/healthy Cyps? Or do they thrive in the longer tanks?
I dont have extra tanks to rehome the MMA fighters. Does that make it hard for keeping Tangs?
What am I not asking to help my research??
Appreciate everyone's time taken to read and respond. Thank you.
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Thanks, DJR. The HOB is 400gph and I have a sponge filter probably 100-200 gph and another powerhead/intake filter/spray bar unit that is rated for 350 gph. In the time since I posted I got plenty of sticker shock with the fish that I am interested inDJRansome said:
so now its a questions of 15 tropheus WC at $25 per or spend more than that getting shellies/cyps/callochromis....though tropheus will probably see more aggresssion and deaths so maybe my math has to factor that. definitely a different level of hobby compared to the Malawi tank i setup last year
I found some TR duboisi juvies for $9 ea!! Left the store before I got weak kneedpunman said:
It sounds like i need about 20 tropheus in a 75g to make this species work. Start with juvies and then hope for the hierarchy to settle in over time with maybe just a few/no fish lost. Cyps seem to be pricey and appear to carry the "fragile" label. 10-14 seem like a good number for them.@punman - ty for your responses and for your offer to talk to me in more detail.
75g is all I have and will for some time going forward. If that reduces the probability of success, please do advise me of that. I honestly dont know if I plan to breed/raise fry with any of the fish that I keep except for some critically endangered goodeids that are species only in heavily planted tanks. I can easily bump the filtration to 8-10x like my Malawi tank if it is necessary to keep tropheus healthy. WC is now part of my weekly routine on all tanks that I keep and I am reading up on their specific dietary needs which seems to be attainable as well. It also doesnt seem like there is a need to rehome tropheus because they cant be reintroduced without causing mayhem. sexed adults also dont seem necessary as teh pecking order gets established. What else should I be warned about
Thanks again for the detailed responses!!
LOL thanks DJR - the folks on this forum have taught me wellDJRansome said:
I still remain interested if I can get over my nervousness. No rush is my goal for now....
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