First of all, The Ilangis are the way to go. I have a group myself and they are spectacular!!!! Try getting at least a group of 24 or better. Weed out the males as they grow. Try keeping only two males in the group. You can try to get them at: RESERVE STOCK CICHLIDS.com They have lots to pick from. Warning you now..... It's additive!!!!!!! Good luck and happy fish keeping!!!!!