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Hi,

I just enter the world of Tanganyika - the aquarium used to be my coral maternity...

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.Date: March 2008
.Dimensions: 200x60x30 cm
.Volume: 350 liters
.Filtration: Eheim 2260
.Heater: 1x300w
.Lights: Flood Light 65W

.ph: 8,2
.kh:16
.gh:7

.Flora: Anubias nana, Valisneria gigantea, Valisneria spiralis, Cryptocoryne wendtii ''brown'', etc

Fishes:

Neolamprologus multifasciatus (10 adults + 10 juveniles)
6 Lamprolugos ocellatus
5 juliedochromis marlieri
1 Neolamprologus caudopuntactus

Soon into the aquarium:

4 Neolamprologus leleupi
6 Neolamprologus brichardi Dafodil

A vídeo and some pics...










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Though I'm new to Tangs presently, I had many, many tanks 30 years ago. I've been an avid reader of this forum to catch up on things. Here are my thoughts and I'm looking forward to see what the experts say.

Forget about the Occies. Your mutiles will soon take over the bottom of the tank and the Occies are not as friendly. Mine are breeding like rabbits and I am already planning on a new tank to spread them out.

I've never had them, but I think the leleupi would be a mistake. I've thought of them myself (very colorful) but they appear to be to aggressive given forum responses.

My gut feeling also tells me that the daffodils won't work but I'm looking forward to other responses.

Personally, I would add some Alto calvus. I LOVE these fish. I would also consider some cyps but I'm not sure if you have enough height on your tank.

As I said, I'm just getting back into the hobby after being one of the major breeders of African cichlids 30 years ago. I only have a 55 gallon plus a small nursery and "prisoner" tank but will be adding a 120 soon.

My gut feeling when adding this larger tank is to go in another direction (Africans only) to have color. Been there, done that! I don't want a tank to impress my friends, I want one that I can watch for hours. Tangs are the only way to go!
 

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that is an awsome footprint.
i wouldnt go for the leleupi or the daffodil.
they harass shellies too much and they are very aggressive to each other.

maybe try less aggressive lamps?
calvus or comps are a great choice.
in that footprint i would try paracyps. the height may be an issue, but it may not. your tank dimentions are very good.

as far as occies and multies go, it may work out. occies on one end, multies on the other
 

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yeah i reckon you can do multies and occies with that jumbo footprint, just put a shell bed at each end, and hey if one day down the track the multise pose a threat, just choose your favourite and either rehome the others or sell them to a lfs :)
stick with the julies and add some alto's.

cyps would be awesome in a tank that long, but its just not tall enough...

single brichardi, daffodil would be ok, but u dont want a few breeding cos they'll go nuts and take over the tank.

post some more pics when youve got it fully stocked :thumb:
 

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Ah a European style built tank, can't remember the term for it, so clean looking though. All the bracing is around the edges and no bracing going across the middle of the tank right? A complete opening? You see that more for salt water where you don't want the braces to get in the way of the lights, and just looks a lot better to me, which that tank would make a great coral maternity and I am thinking was specifically built for that? Makes a great tang tank though with all that floorspace. A lot of people won't build them like that here with the bracing like that, at least I don't think so, haven't looked into it for a while.

I think you can get away with the multies on one end and occies on the other, you have some sight breaks but I would almost make a more prominent one on towards the right middle, I'm thinking that is where the occies are? Pretty much so they can't look straight down the tank and see each other all day. Multies are very prolific and can spread, but mine seem to say in one area mostly, though in a smaller tank, haven't seen what they would do with a footprint like that. I would more do a wait and see, and if they start battling, take one group out.
 

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with the given floor plan, 2 shellies are fine. I do think the Daffodils and leleupi will give you some problems. They are nice but they are a real pain for other fish.

I would recommand cyps. or paracyps., but they are great jumper. You might find a few behind or infront of your tank if it is open top. Even sand dwellers like xeno. or melanogenys will jump. But those will make a good addtion to your tank both for color and attention.

Calvus would make a good choice in there as well. A lone Daffodis is ok. But a lone leleupi will still give you an headache.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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I don't even think its an option not to have some paracyps in there. That would be an exceptional tank for some nice open water fish like that(keeping in mind that they are very capable jumpers). I suppose that calvus would be a decent choice, but I would be more concerned about height with them than the cyps or paracyps, because of how high bodied they become as they grow, and their tendency to swim somewhat vertically while searching for food.

Already shaping up to be a great tank! Keep us posted!
 

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Hi,

Thank you all for your comments and advice.

The multies and the occies are allready there and they just don´t see each other. They are fine at least for now...!

The aquarium as only 30 cm in height. With this height I really don´t think that cyps or paracyps will get alllong well.

Right now I already have the leleupi and the dafodils reserved and they are together in a aquarium - I´ll keep an eye on them when they arrive.

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Hi,

Here are two new shots from the Multies colonie and a vídeo...






And also from the "colomie" of ocelatus...


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Hi,

Some changes in the population...

Neolamprologus multifasciatus (aprox 10 adults + 10 juv)
6 Lamprolugos ocellatus
1 Neolamprologus caudopuntactus
10 juliedochromis transcriptus
6 Neolamprologus leleupi
4 Neolamprologus pulcher daffodil

And the pics...









The ocellatus







Neolamprologus leleupi







Neolamprologus pulcher daffodil



Juliedochromis transcriptus





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very nice pictures!
but leleupi are really a PITA.
*** had one for 3 years(im a shellie lover) and shes just been killing and eating fry. and adults as well. shes one tough cookie, she will not back down to any shellie. once yours get bigger, they will start to harass more.
 

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Hi,

My leleupi are (so far) very frendly! Nevertheless I´m going to put some more aquariuns...

Aquarium #1 (200x60x30 cm)
11 Cyprichromis leptosoma "Utinta"
Colónia Neolamprologus multifasciatus (10 adults and 10 juv)
2 Lamprologus ocellatus (adults)
4 Lamprologus ocellatus (juv)
4 Neolamprologus leleupi (adults)

Aquarium #2 (130x45x50 cm)
6 Neolamprologus pulcher daffodil (adults)
4 Juliedochromis transcriptus (adults)
16 Juliedochromis transcriptus (juv)

Aquarium #3 (60x30x30 cm)
6 Neolamprologus Similis (adults)
10 Neolamprologus Similis (juv)

Aquarium #4 (60x30x30 cm)
15 Telmatochromis temporalis Shell (juv)

Aquarium #5 (60x50x50 cm)
30 Neolamprologus brichardi (juv)

Aquarium#6 (60x50x40 cm)
2 Telmatochromis temporalis Shell (adults)
2 Neolamprologus brichardi (adults)

Some pics and 3D (made with Google SketchUp)...







Aquarium #4 still with the brichardi juv.













The similis











And the adult Temos





And the 3D









Cheers,
Diogo
 

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Hi,

Yesterday I divided the fishes again due to the telmatochromis behaviour!
Once I don´t have yet the #2 aquarium (130x45x50cm) the fishes will stay divided like this:

Aquarium #1 (200x60x30 cm)
11 Cyprichromis leptosoma "Utinta"
Colony Neolamprologus multifasciatus (10 adults and + 10 juv)
2 Lamprologus ocellatus (adults)
4 Lamprologus ocellatus (juv)
4 Neolamprologus leleupi (adults)

Aquarium #3 (60x30x30 cm)
6 Neolamprologus Similis (adults)
10 Neolamprologus Similis (juv)

Aquarium #4 (60x30x30 cm)
5 Telmatochromis temporalis Shell (juv)
2 Telmatochromis temporalis Shell (adults)

Aquarium #5 (60x50x50 cm)
6 Neolamprologus pulcher daffodil (adults)
4 Juliedochromis transcriptus (adults)
16 Juliedochromis transcriptus (juv)

Aquarium #6 (60x50x40 cm)
30 Neolamprologus brichardi (juv)
2 Neolamprologus brichardi (adults)

Here are some vídeos of all the aquariuns...

The similis...

The telmos...

The brichardi...

The daffodil and the transcriptus...

And finnaly the utintas, multies, ocies and leleupi...

Cheers,
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Hi,

Today some more pics...

Temporalis shell male



And the female



The aquarium of the Julies transcriptus and the daffodil...



One of the daffodil - a male I think!



Male similis...



And the kids...



And the 2 utinta males - getting in shape!





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How big are those male cyps? Nice looking fish and pictures as well :thumb:
 

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whoa how vool is the brichardi species tank! so much movement!
are they allways this active when kept solely in a species tank?
 
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