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Hi everyone i am about to set up my first mbuna aquarium. i am particularly keen to base it on 7-8 pseudotropheus demosoni. The tank is 150 uk gallons and would like to get any feedback on which other fish would best be suited to go in with them. I will be stocking about 40 fish at juvenile size at the same time initially.
 

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People here say you need at least 12. If you're stocking 40 initially, I assume money isn't a huge issue, and with that, why not 30 demasoni and then 10 yellow labs? That's a common combination.

People also have had success with afra, rusties, red zebras, basically anything that doesn't look like demasoni and doesn't get big enough to eat them will work.

What are the dimensions of your tank? I'm not really familiar with uk gallons so I don't really know how big you're talking about.
 

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The tank is 6ftx2ftx2ft which is 150 UK or 180 US. Gallons. i had a feeling you would say get more it just that wanted some diversity? Maybe a compromise will be the answer if i upped it to 15 Demosoni with some labs and others that are going to tolerate them.
Thanks for your thoughts
 

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I'm going to agree with JoelRHale. I keep around 30 Demasoni with 10 Yellow Labs. You will find the more the merrier with the Demasoni. Less than 10 is simply too few due to their aggression. The Yellow Labs compliment them beautifully and are completely ignored by the Dems.
 

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With a 72" tank you can keep 20 demasoni and 6 labs and still have three more species in the tank...maybe even a higher number of species.

I had 20 demasoni and four additional species (1m:4f) in my 72" x 18" tank for two years and it was a great tank.
 

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Well if you want diversity, what about:
demasoni
labs
rusty
acei
white top hara
cobalt zebra/pseudo socofoli

That list seems okay on paper, the last one might not jive with dems because it's also blue, but it's also a completely different shade and pattern.
 

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I found the hara, acei, cobalts and socolofi are too similar. All relatively solid color mid blue fish. I like more contrast.
 

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What 4 did you keep yours with? The next tank I'm doing is going to be centered around them. Granted I'm most likely going to go the dem/lab route, I'm curious as to what else does well.
 

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JoelRHale said:
Well if you want diversity, what about:
demasoni
labs
rusty
acei
white top hara
cobalt zebra/pseudo socofoli

That list seems okay on paper, the last one might not jive with dems because it's also blue, but it's also a completely different shade and pattern.
What's a White top Hara?
 

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I had the same mix in my 72" tank as I have in my 75G (signature) except for one additional species.

At various times I had socolofi and acei, thus my decision that they did not provide enough contrast. I have the hara now. The males are nice. :thumb:

I do like the socolofi. If I could find some with the solid black dorsal I'd definitely do them again.
 

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thankyou all for your input. As i constantly research more and more i realise your comments are leading me in the right directions so thanks for the info it has been a great help so far in saving me heaps of research to get where i am. however you can never do enough research can you?
 

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Malawi_Marc, yeah they get confusing sometimes, when I talk about something here I usually just check the profiles to make sure I don't confuse anyone!

DJRansome, Hara are very nice. If I wasn't so attached to my male Metriaclima zebra I'd probably be looking for Hara, but he looks too similar for my comfort.
 

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I may be wrong but for a none breeding tank 6 foot by 2 foot by two foot you can go whatever Mbuna you like as it is big enough to put up with nasty big Mbuna plus small and/or peacful guys. If going for a breeding tank you need a rearing tank. If in Ipswich UK I would for sure check out Stevenage specialist Aquatics http://ssa.apphb.com/fish if looking for good breeding stock and go for a max of four species very different. But then if stocking that tank I would not be able to resist some lovely red Tropheus available elsewere in the UK. :wink:
 

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if I were you I'd toss a labeotropheus species into the mix, you can get some with redish colors, the females aren't brown or grey for the most part, and they get a good size, it would look good in that 180. they are on the more aggressive side as well so could stand up to most tank mates.

the cynotilapia sp. mbamba types tend to be mostly black, and mine are tough fish, they might be your best chance with cynotilapia to go with dems
 
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