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good flakes?

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I just picked up my first little group of tropheus this week (4 Ikola) yes I need more yet but they are still under 1" so I have some time to collect before they start harassing eachother

I'm new to tropheus but certainly not new to cichlids but I have 2 questions for the group

is anyone using these flakes? are they a low enough percentage of protein to prevent bloat?

what's the best place to procure the rest of my school (I'd like to add another 10) obviously it's one of the site sponsors but who's the best for tropheus?
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Here's the ingredients:

Dried spirulina algae, fish meal, oatmeal, krill, soybean flour, dried garlic, shrimp meal, dried kelp, squid liver meal, dried yeast, wheat germ meal, salmon oil (ethoxyquin used as preservative), flaxseed oil, vitamins (cholecalciferol, biotin, d-calcium pantothenate, folic acid, inositol, niacin supplement, riboflavin-5-phosphate, calcium l-ascorbyl-2-monophosphate, vitamin a acetate, thiamine hydrochloride, vitamin b12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin e supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin k activity)), lecithin, sodium citrate, minerals (manganous oxide, ferrous carbonate, zinc oxide, copper oxide, calcium iodate, cobalt carbonate, calcium carbonate), yeast extract, fructoologosaccharide, beta-carotene.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 44%
Crude Fat (min) 10.0%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids (min) 1.25%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids (min) 1.75%
Crude Fiber (max) 1.5%
Moisture (max) 7.0%
Ash (max) 9.0%
Calcium (min) 0.5%
Phosphorus (min) 0.7%
Magnesium (min) 0.15%
Copper (min) 20 ppm
Iron (min) 350 ppm
Cobalt (min) 0.2 ppm
Iodine (min) 1.2 ppm
Manganese (min) 10 ppm
Zinc (min) 25 ppm
Vitamin A (min) 10,000 IU/lb
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min) 500 mg/lb
Vitamin E (min) 50 IU/lb
Beta-Carotene (min) 2,000 IU/lb
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There is no percentage of protein to prevent bloat in Tropheus. Vegetable protein is different to animal protein. Saying that good water and good numbers and good maintenance and you can feed em any flake and sometimes get away with it esp with juveniles brought up on it. If you want to get bloat chances to a min then feed em a food with only veg proteins but the lots of folk use pellets like NLS (inc myself to try and get more breeding from adults) and get away with that. To be honest other than a protein level that is quite low but not given how much is veg protein and how much animal its pretty hard to judge if this is a good Tropheus food or not.
Ingredients that seem odd to me for Tropheus are oatmeal, soybean flour, and the shear amount of dried spirulina algae. Still I have seen far worse used with great success.
4 Ikola is not a stable mix. Niether is adding 10 new guys to the 4. I would for sure swap your four and pay for a bigger group rather than adding to em. Adding Tropheus to an established group no matter how rediculously small is usually less good than changing for a bigger group of Tropheus that already get on.
This should be your main concern not the food!

All the best James
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I use those flakes in combo with nls thera+a, my trophs love it and are breeding like crazy! The first ingredient is Spirulina algae with a 40% spirulina content. Howevere if that is not what your trophs were eating before you picked them up you may run into issues...
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