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Are they the same? I've read what Konings has to say but I"m interested in what keepers think about color. memory tells me that "Foai (SP?)" are darker and richer blue but I'm hoping I am wrong.

What would you Furcifer and foai keepers say?

My Dilemma is this:

One week ago I bought a WC group Of Foai "Kachese" and the male has gone sick and died! :( :( :x :( I have a local source for F1 "Nyanza Lac" furcifer but I don't want to raise a bunch of them to find out there's little or no blue (I have seen many pics of "Furcifer" with blackish lyre fins and silver bodies). TIA!
 
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i have a group of 8 foai kachese growing out.. im going to be getting rid of any extra males i have.. so if you keep your group i would sell you any of my extra males.. mine are tank raised from bluechipaquatics i assume thats where you got yours since *** never seen anyone else with them... they are about 3-3.5 inchs yet cant really sex them too good yet..
 

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Foai, in general, are the nicer looking fish (IMO). I did have some very nice Kigoma Furcifers though that combine the best of both fish (dark fins and yellow on top of the head).
 

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I actually got mine from little africa but I may hit up BLue chip for replacements. :roll:
 

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noddy said:
Foai, in general, are the nicer looking fish (IMO). I did have some very nice Kigoma Furcifers though that combine the best of both fish (dark fins and yellow on top of the head).
Could u please show some photo?
 

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noddy said:
Foai, in general, are the nicer looking fish (IMO). I did have some very nice Kigoma Furcifers though that combine the best of both fish (dark fins and yellow on top of the head).
Could u please show some photo?
Having a hard time with this. Trying to post a video but not much luck.
 

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BioG said:
Are they the same? I've read what Konings has to say but I"m interested in what keepers think about color. memory tells me that "Foai (SP?)" are darker and richer blue but I'm hoping I am wrong.

What would you Furcifer and foai keepers say?

My Dilemma is this:

One week ago I bought a WC group Of Foai "Kachese" and the male has gone sick and died! :( :( :x :( I have a local source for F1 "Nyanza Lac" furcifer but I don't want to raise a bunch of them to find out there's little or no blue (I have seen many pics of "Furcifer" with blackish lyre fins and silver bodies). TIA!
They're very different in color. Only go with very reliable sources or be prepared to be disappointed. Insist of pics of adults or pass it by. I ended up with 'furcifer' sold as 'foai'. Foai have the deep body color and generally much more/darker color overall.

Just my .02
 

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http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://cichlidenareal.ru/wiki/index.php%3Fvid%3D2800&ei=Eoj-Tee6KsGohAeH-tmbCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDgQ7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DCyathopharynx%2Bfoai%2BNyanza%2Blac%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dnn7%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D683%26bih%3D379%26prmd%3Divns

http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=168
look the same to me :-?
In the second link the fish has yellow on the cheeks, anal fin and on top of the dorsal, it also has a fair bit of copper colour in the flank. I don't see any of that going on in the first link.
 

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Maybe thats a difference. Dunno if I would worry too much which one I had as long as its all that type. :wink:
 
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all featherfins are pretty much stunning thou.. cant really go wrong keeping any species.. i think ima pick up some juvies Ophth. Ventralis Mpimbwe Silver Streak soon
 

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I've read what Konings has to say but I"m interested in what keepers think about color. memory tells me that "Foai (SP?)" are darker and richer blue but I'm hoping I am wrong.
Believe what Konings says, they're very different. It might not matter to some, but to me, they're not all the same any more than all tropheus are the same. Unfortunately many cyathopharynx out there are being mislabeled and fucifer and foai are being used interchangably. Some are even labeled with both names. Ultimately the name doesn't matter, but what they end up looking like to you may matter a great deal. If that's the case, then again, reliable sources only and ask for pics of adults. I personally find the foai more stunning than the furcifer. They have the marbling pattern and more color in the body than furcifer.
 

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sorry, but don´t trust that russian webpage like cichlidsareal.ru, they stole many pictures of diffrent keepers....they are so much wrong pictures about this variants. (this is not foai from nyanza lac, for sure...)

i´ve been talking to the german featherfin specialist siegfried loose and he say to me, on the burundi coastline(Nyanza Lac, Magara, Resha, Rutunga...) still exsist one Cyatopharynx and this is C. furcifer.

The C. furcifer always have yellow spots in his face or a yellow cap.
 

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The "Furcifer Nyanza-Lac" (I've seen the adults in the flesh) has yellow in it it's fins (Anal and dorsal edge) so It's hard for me to believe the russian pic too. Only because, from what I've seen the "Foai" variant or species, by location seems to have consistency with the overall look of the same location furcifer only darker in it's presentation of the same pattern.
 

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Are there any instances where the "Foai" variant doesn't mimic coloration of the "Furcifers" at the same location?

For example; C. Furcifer shows a slight yellow cap at Cape Kachese but all the pics of "C. Foai Kachese" are all blue with no cap.

It's so difficult to discern with Furcifer/Foai because the available pics seem to be loosely labeled. :roll:
 

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Foai do not have any yellow/orange on their heads, those fish are Furcifers. If you are seeing a pic of a "Foai Nyanza-Lac" that looks like a darker version of the Furcifer, it is a Furcifer and not a Foai.

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"i´ve been talking to the german featherfin specialist siegfried loose and he say to me, on the burundi coastline(Nyanza Lac, Magara, Resha, Rutunga...) still exsist one Cyatopharynx and this is C. furcifer".

I would pretty much have to accept this as fact.
 
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