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Hi, i started my fishless cycle since 6/3 and has been adding ammonia periodically over the last week (about 15ml in total) and ammonia level has been around 3ppm and 0ppm for nitrite but did not do any nitrate testing though.
6/9 was when i get a 0.25ppm reading for my nitrite with a 1.5ppm reading for my ammonia.
6/10 8.30am reading, ammonia 0.5ppm, nitrite 0.5
add 5ml of ammonia
6/10 8.30pm reading, ammonia 0.5ppm, nitrite 1.0
took nitrate reading at the same time and have a reading of 10ppm (my first nitrate test)

does all this sounds right? i thought there should be no nitrate until nitrite spike.

please help. :-?

btw this is my tank setup http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/view ... p?t=172834
thank you.
 

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Normal readings considering you used gravel from an established tank. There would have been enough nitrite converters to begin converting nitrite to nitrate right from the start. Keep doing what you're doing. You're doing fine.
 

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Thanks prov356.
Does this mean that the tank is getting cycled soon?
Good time to order my stocks?

6/11 6.30a Ammonia .025 Nitrite 5.0 Nitrate 10

Thanks.
 

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You're well on your way and will be cycled 'soon', but I'd wait to order just to be safe. I'd guess within a week you'll be done. When nitrite drops it's pretty sudden and not a gradual thing, so don't get discouraged if it stays high for a few days.
 

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:dancing: :dancing: :dancing:
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Can't wait.

Gonna spend the next few day doing research on stocklist.
Any suggestions?

Thanks
Opps, forgot about rocks, need to run over to the landscape company. :fish:
 

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Hi prov356, just visited your website.....
That was an amazing job you have done on the 180g.
What kind of rock are those?[/img]
 

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Super great job prov356!

Might have to start a new thread in Decoration forum so as not to get off topic :oops: .

Thanks again. Will update with my fishless cycle tonight. :)
 

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there's no ways u can do the fishless cycle and be done in 2 weeks.... the nitrite will stick around for another 3week before it drop down to 0ppm....if u do fishless and been putting ammonia to keep them at 3ppm when your tank done cycle the nitrate should be off the chart.....i been cycle my 210 for the last 4 week my reading today
ammonia 2ppm
nitite 1ppm
nitrate 100ppm( over 100 for sure)
dont order any fish YOUR TANK is not done cycle anytimes soon
 

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he did start with seasoned gravel so his will likely be much faster. With that being said i wouldnt order anything until both ammonia and nitrites are 0
 

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live2bet said:
Hi, i started my fishless cycle since 6/3 and has been adding ammonia periodically over the last week (about 15ml in total) and ammonia level has been around 3ppm and 0ppm for nitrite but did not do any nitrate testing though.
6/9 was when i get a 0.25ppm reading for my nitrite with a 1.5ppm reading for my ammonia.
6/10 8.30am reading, ammonia 0.5ppm, nitrite 0.5
add 5ml of ammonia
6/10 8.30pm reading, ammonia 0.5ppm, nitrite 1.0
took nitrate reading at the same time and have a reading of 10ppm (my first nitrate test)

does all this sounds right? i thought there should be no nitrate until nitrite spike.

please help. :-?

btw this is my tank setup http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/view ... p?t=172834
thank you.
does this said anything that he put some gravel from an established tank in there....????
 

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Thanks for the concern and advise.
Still doing my search for a stocklist.

FYI, i did add about 3 cups of gavel from an established tank.

readings update....
6/11 9.30pm Ammonia 0, Nitrite 2.0 and Nitrate 10
5ml ammonia added.....

Looking good? :)
 

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live2bet said:
Thanks for all comments and advise.

FYI, i did add about 3 cups of gavel from an established tank.

readings update....
6/11 9.30pm Ammonia 0, Nitrite 2.0 and Nitrate 10
5ml ammonia added.....

Looking good? :)
FYI 3cup of gravel for that big tank doesnt help to cycle faster....as u can see your nitrite is going up from the last test... when u done cycle your reading should be ammonia and nitrite 0ppm .....for my tank i dont have gravel from established tank but all my filter run with old filter pad from established tank is for the last 4week is still not done ....im just trying to help u ..i know how u feel .i cant wait for my tank to be done and stock some fish ,g/l with your tank
 

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Thanks cichlids killer, i appreciate your concern :) .
i guess i'll have to wait till nitrite and ammonia hit 0ppm.

Anyway, i'm stilll looking for a stocklist.
Have you had a stocklist yet?

gl with your tank too, i guess good things come to those who wait huh? :fish: :fish: :fish:
 

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cichlids _killer said:
does this said anything that he put some gravel from an established tank in there....????
You have to read his other thread that he provides a link to. When he gave his initial readings, I went to that other thread looking for info on whether he had seeded the tank from another because it was cycling in a shorter than typical period of time, and I suspected that he had. Always helpful to read all info before jumping to conclusions. :)

And you certainly can be done with cycling in a short time seeding with gravel or any other media. Done it many times and so have many others. it may take more or less for him, but point is, it can be done. :thumb: It does seem to work better for some than for others. I heard of one case where a few cups of gravel instant cycled. And I've heard of other like yours where it didn't help at all. I'd stop short of saying 'no way' here based on a single experience of yours. Fish keeping just isn't like that. Too many variables involved. Yes, his nitrite is rising fast, but it's rising sooner than it normally would. Everyone here suggested he wait until ammonia and nitrite were zero before adding fish. We're all trying to help him too. :)
 

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Adding anything from a cycled tank is going to help to some degree. Gravel, decor, filter media, anything that has a surface will likely have some bacteria on it and that helps get things going. As prov said there are too many variables and the process is predictably unpredictable.

In my opinion the bottom line is this: By adding the gravel from an established tank you did help out the process. However if any prediction of when the cycle will be done is just a guess and you should keep doing what you are doing until your ammonia and nitrite are 0. At this point order your fish but keep adding ammonia to feed the bacteria until you replace the artificial ammonia source with the genuine bioload.
 

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live2bet said:
Thanks cichlids killer, i appreciate your concern :) .
i guess i'll have to wait till nitrite and ammonia hit 0ppm.

Anyway, i'm stilll looking for a stocklist.
Have you had a stocklist yet?

gl with your tank too, i guess good things come to those who wait huh? :fish: :fish: :fish:
npb thanks yea im already have my stock list ....will order alot of fish from livefishdirectdotcom...(hap and peacock)
 

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cichlids _killer said:
does this said anything that he put some gravel from an established tank in there....????
You have to read his other thread that he provides a link to. When he gave his initial readings, I went to that other thread looking for info on whether he had seeded the tank from another because it was cycling in a shorter than typical period of time, and I suspected that he had. Always helpful to read all info before jumping to conclusions. :)

And you certainly can be done with cycling in a short time seeding with gravel or any other media. Done it many times and so have many others. it may take more or less for him, but point is, it can be done. :thumb: It does seem to work better for some than for others. I heard of one case where a few cups of gravel instant cycled. And I've heard of other like yours where it didn't help at all. I'd stop short of saying 'no way' here based on a single experience of yours. Fish keeping just isn't like that. Too many variables involved. Yes, his nitrite is rising fast, but it's rising sooner than it normally would. Everyone here suggested he wait until ammonia and nitrite were zero before adding fish. We're all trying to help him too. :)
my bad ..didnt read the other post......in my experience i never heard with the big tank and a just few cup its never be done in few week ...in some case that i know my ways much faster than his still (3 1/2 weeks) and yea more or less cycle will be done :-? i have all my reading show on the first week too but nitrite is not going any where yet... :eek:
 
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