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Bought it as a Festae from a notable store and after taking a careful look and research, i decided that it's a urophthalmus(mayan). I called the store up and the manager said that they weren't sure if it was a festae or not. My thing is, if you werent sure why would u sell it as a festae? I was really upset cause i've been looking for a festae for a long time. New to festaes btw. What do u guys think?
 

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Bought it as a Festae from a notable store and after taking a careful look and research, i decided that it's a urophthalmus(mayan). I called the store up and the manager said that they weren't sure if it was a festae or not. My thing is, if you werent sure why would u sell it as a festae? I was really upset cause i've been looking for a festae for a long time. New to festaes btw. What do u guys think?
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You're correct, it is urophthalmus.
 

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Nice looking mayan though.

Weird, I think this is the first time I've read of a mayan being sold as a festae (though it probably does happen more than that). Usually it's a case of being sold as a red terror, a common name that they share.
 

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If you want a festae Capatin Nemos in East Norriton PA has a tank full of nice ones with great marking. Almost make me want to get some but I do not have any room. Also I am not sure that is not a festae. I do not remember Uropthalmus having that much red in there fins.
 

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The fastest way to differentiate betweeen festae and urophthalmus is the Y-bar behind the gill cover of festae. In urophthalmus, the bar above the gill cover does not connect to the first bar behind it. In festae, it meets the bar behind the gill cover at about eye level.

Under two inches, the young are easily told apart. The young of urophthalmus have a barred pattern, while young festae have a line of square blotches.

The range of urophthalmus is coastal from central Mexico to Nicaraqua, and they are often found in full sea water. Over that range they are quite variable, and used to be considered to have 9 subspecies. Current practice does not support the use of subspecies, so the fish are considered a single species over the entire range. The most colorful populations are the ones confused with festae most often, and can be caught in many canals in Florida from accidental releases.
 

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thanks for the info chrome. I also read that you could also tell by the stripes, mayans having 7 after the gills, and festaes having 8. also that black dot on the tail should be more towards the top then in the middle. its a beautiful looking fish regardless.
 

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smitty said:
If you want a festae Capatin Nemos in East Norriton PA has a tank full of nice ones with great marking. Almost make me want to get some but I do not have any room. Also I am not sure that is not a festae. I do not remember Uropthalmus having that much red in there fins.
Do u know how big they are and the price of them? i might check the place out and grab some philly cheesesteak on the way :)
 

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Under two inches, the young are easily told apart. The young of urophthalmus have a barred pattern, while young festae have a line of square blotches.
I really hate repeating myself, but just for youse guys!
 
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