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Let me first tell you about my set up. I have a 38 gallon SW right now. Will be freshwater in a few days!!! I am going to have brown gravel and blue gravel. The main decoration in my tank is going to be a 30'' castle that is absolutely awesome! The tank is 36'' so it will fit perfect. The castle is in two peices(one is 14 and one is 16. The brown gravel is for the main substrate and the blue gravel is so i can add a underwater river around the castle. Woke up at like 2AM with this idea. I will have plants also in my tank. My question is can I add 10 runnynose tetras(dragons), 5 clown loaches(Knites), 5 guppies(Servants), and 5 dwarf gouramis(Kings and Queens). Will these live peacefully? The filter is a 55 gallon aqueon. I plan on doing an undergravel filter along with the aqueon 55. Is this too much filtration? My main reason for this is if any of my fish decide to breed then I can turn of the aqueon and leave the undergravel on. Can I use real fine gravel in a tank my size to create the effect of blended colors? Can I add any more fish?
 

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Hey, whatever floats your boat. If it were me I'd go back to sleep and hope for a new idea, but I'm not the one that has to be pleased with the outcome ;).

How big do clown loaches get? For some reason I thought they could get quite large. Other than that, I don't see anything wrong with your stocking plan for the "Kingdom" ;). I'd suggest that you stick to one King and one Queen though, and let the rest be princes/princesses lest you get a civil war as the Kings vie for territory.

-Rick (the armchair aquarist)
 

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I think clown loaches get really big, like 10" or so...but it also takes a while for them to get to any appriciable size. They also like hidding spaces. I would recommend a smaller loach, but im not an expert in loaches, so I cant recommend any.

I happen to be a natural aquarist, but I think youve got a neat idea. The unnatural aquariums can look really cool if you stick to a theme and do them right. I saw a 55gal tank at a college party one time that housed tinfoil barbs (I think... it was a while ago, and for some strange reason my mind doest remember it all that well) It had black gravel and sunken highligher filled absolute bottles. It didnt look natural at all, but it was a really beautiful tank!

I think what your going to want to do is use very fine gravel. In fact, I would use sand for the moat. One issue will be keeping the moat gravel in place so it doesnt drift over the land gravel.

By the way, Im not sure where, but I have seen some amazing pictures where aquarist take outdoor landscapes (think beach, or a waterfall) and recreate them underwater. If you can find them, they might help you figure out how to do yours since that seems to be your plan.
 

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clown loaches get too big, how about Kuhli loaches?
Another cool look are the genetically engineered glowfish and an actinic (blue) bulb, a shoal of them would look really cool in that kind of set-up.
Not my thing, but I have seen some interesting ones.
 

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I personally would not use an undergravel filter, either. These just trap the "gunk" you're trying to remove.
 

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a7oneal said:
I personally would not use an undergravel filter, either. These just trap the "gunk" you're trying to remove.
Time for a reverse-ugf? still doesn't work if your cichlids dig to expose the plate, but avoids some of teh bugaboos associated with ugf's and poor maintenance schedules.

-Rick (the armchair aquarist)
 

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How will the fish know who is really the king?lmao.And why no joker?http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif
Laugh Out LoudAnd your dragon to knite ratio is off.
 
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