I know that some people are against keeping African & S. American Cichlids together, but outside of personal preference, I've never understood why. Thoughts/comments? Thanks.
Agree 100%.ahud said:I disagree that PH and other water qualities do not matter. Very bad advise IMO.
There is quite a bit of merit in this statement and I will agree with it. Over emphasis is placed on water chemistry without much detail. If one isn't careful, one gets it into the head of new aquarists that all New world cichlids (or all South American cichlids) need soft water and all Old world cichlids need liquid rock.Bluetangclan said:PH and such isnt as big of a deal unless you are dealing with wild caughts and there is no way in #%$& i would put an expensive WC in a mixed tank.
that is correct. When I changed nothing but the OH- and the H+ concentrations, nothing happened. It is remarkably hard to do and I had to purchase buffers etc. There was one change that was impossible and that was to take water with a high pH and high KH to a low pH... if you add H+, it will eat up the KH.Similis said:Are you telling us Number 6 that the fish felt no ill effect what so ever.
What hobbyists call pH shock is known as Osmotic shock. It is not the result of fish being impacted by pH but by the sudden increase or decrease of items in the water column that influence osmosis :Similis said:What about pH shock or pH scald.
Did you change the GH and KH as well or literally, just the pH?Similis said:I dropped the pH fairly rapid once when I kept Discus.
See Osmotic shock.Similis said:Does the pH of the water not effect the way they breathe.
I disagree. There are conditions of a natural environment that are unimportant. This hobby exists because hobbyists strive to figure out which aspects are important, which are unimportant.Similis said:Though fish can be acclimatised to different pH levels, it is in the best interest of the fish,
especially if they are wild to be kept in as close to their natural conditions as possible.
Please quote the portion of any of my replies that you think is inaccurate, misleading or harmful. Without taking what I said out of context, you won't be able to find anything. Nor has bluetangclan (IMO) said anything dangerous or misleading.Similis said:I know most of the fish we keep now are far far removed from their wild cousins but I think
what you have said is just a tad irresponsible. Especially for beginners.
Not directly in my experience... You are thinking of species like apistogramma sp.ahud said:Does PH not affect breeding? Certain PH gives more males or females and some fish require certain water chemistry for their eggs to hatch.