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I'm getting close enough in my 125 build to start seriously considering my stocking; I'd love some opinions (the more experience-based the better!) on potential mixes.

I will endeavour to get to 1:5 ratios in most instances.

1. The mbuna I am getting come heck or high water is Labeotropheus fuelleborni. Specifically the OB marmalade cats. So that's not eliminating too many other genii or colour choices.

2. My second favourite is Pseudotropheus sp. 'williamsi north.' So that covers off the colour yellow.

3. Metriaclima estherae (Minos Reef). Specifically with blue males. So there's a touch of blue and a bit more in the yellow/orange spectrum.

4. Cynotilapia sp. 'hara.' More blue. Does anyone thing a Hara male will have trouble colouring up with the cichlids listed above?

5. Here's where it gets difficult. Contenders are:
Iodotropheus sprengerae (I see no problems with this choice)
Melanochromis joanjohnsonae (I've never heard of anyone having this species)
Petrotilapia sp. 'chitimba' (Too big and aggressive? Too much blue & yellow now?)
Pseudotropheus demasoni (Probably get 15 - Too much blue now?)
Tropheops sp. 'red cheek' (Too aggressive? Too much yellow?)
Or one of two potential haps (will they be fine with 4 mbuna species?)
Placidochromis milomo
Protomelas sp. 'steveni taiwan'

Thanks in advance for opinions and shared experiences.

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Exciting! If I remember correctly, you've been working on this tank set up for a while, right? I have Ps. Williamsi, Cyno sp. Hara, and Labeotropheus Trewavasae in my 125 gallon right now. I like where you're going :thumb:

2. My second favourite is Pseudotropheus sp. 'williamsi north.' So that covers off the colour yellow.
Great choice! My only comment here is that their color is closer to an olive-green than a yellow. Definitely a hard-to-find color for mbuna.

4. Cynotilapia sp. 'hara.' More blue. Does anyone thing a Hara male will have trouble colouring up with the cichlids listed above?
The only issue might be the Met Estherae (blue), but since this is a 6-foot tank, you might have enough room for them to coexist without issues. I would be wary about saving fry from those two groups, though. I'd be less worried if you went with the red male instead of the blue. Or alternatively you could stock Met. sp. Msobo or Met sp. Membe - these males are a bit more distinct from the hara, but still have some yellow-orange with the females.

The fifth species: The hara might have trouble coloring up if you go with Demasoni. Rusties would be fine I think. I don't know anything about petrotilapia or the Joanjohnsonae (is this the same as Lab. Textilis?). Tropheops are very aggressive, but you can handle them in a 125 gallon tank. I'll suggest one other option that works in my tank and should work in yours because much of the stock is the same or similar: Pseudotropheus sp. Elongatus 'Spot' (or sometimes called "Elongatus jewel spot." The males have the same colors as Demasoni, just less blue. Females are drab brown, though.
 

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I'd go with Demasoni, you really need a big dose of bright blue in that tank.
 

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Kanorin said:
Exciting! If I remember correctly, you've been working on this tank set up for a while, right?
Sadly, yes. Being all thumbs I hired out the construction of my stand. Something about my first wood-working project being a stand that has to look good while supporting 2000 lb. for 20 years seemed like a bad idea.
I made initial contact with the builder in August and didn't take delivery until last week. I thought I would be finished months ago. If it was an interesting story I'd share it.
As it is now I am getting some plumbing help in the DIY forum - so realistically, with winter settled in, I won't be ordering fish until March or April.

Thanks to both of you for the feedback on the species possibilities...I am sure it will be a tough decision and I'll worry it right up until the last second. I'm pretty stuck on the Minos Reef estherae so I may have to rethink the Haras. I've never seen williamsi live so it's interesting to hear that they have some olive to them - what a cool fish!

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After wavering on the estherae I am thinking this presently:

1. Labeotropheus fuelleborni (marmalade cat)
2. Metriaclima sp. 'msobo'
3. Pseudotropheus demasoni
4. Pseudotropheus sp. 'elongatus chailosi'
5. Pseudotropheus sp. 'williamsi north'

Does anyone see an issue between the demasoni and chailosi? I know one's yellow and one's blue...

I am still trying to figure if I want the Melanochromis joanjohnsonae; I've just seen and heard so little of them...

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the melanochromis joanjohnsonae is sometimes sold under the trade name labidochromis textilis. have you ever thought of adding some pseudotropheus sp. ndumbi gold, they are a stunning fish. they remind me of an elongated version of saulosi.
 

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Petrochromislover said:
have you ever thought of adding some pseudotropheus sp. ndumbi gold, they are a stunning fish. they remind me of an elongated version of saulosi.
I've got a saulosi species tank that I will keep active so I'm looking to acquire mbuna that expand my horizons, but thanks for the suggestion!

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ridley25 said:
Does anyone see an issue between the demasoni and chailosi? I know one's yellow and one's blue...
I just noticed that the chailosi has been classified as a Metriaclima since 2007. Hopefully that means it's dissimilar enough to the demasoni that the mix won't be an issue.

I would further hope that mixing M. sp. "elongatus chailosi" with M. sp. "msobo" wouldn't be an issue since they look dissimilar as well.

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I doubt you will have any issue with Demasoni , Chailosi or the Msobo. i see your planing this tank well, im also considering a stock like this but i prefur the Chewere over the Chailosi , the Ps. saulosi over the Demasoni and the Metriaclima 'Membe Deep over the Msobo. but these are all very simalar fish and what you like and thinking are very close to what im considering for my 125 , hope this helps you out man =D>
 
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