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Hi all, this is the 1st time i am gonna to attempt a 135g tank (in fact the 1st tank i have is a 20g tank which i started 1 and a half year ago with only 1 oscar). My tank has been cycled sinced a week ago and currently has my oscar in there awaiting for my new stocklist.

After weeks of research and talking to fellow members, i have decided to have a Mbuna tank.

Here is my setup,
2x AquaClear 110
1x xP4
2x 250W Stealth heater
Crushed coral substrate
Lace/Lave rock (in progress)

This is the stocklist i wanted, :fish:
4x Metriaclima callainos (blue)
6x Metriaclima estherae
3x Labidochromis caeruleus
6x pseudotropheus flavus
6x Pseudotropheus saulosi
4x Pseudotropheus sp Acei
4x Melanchromis cyaneorhabdos
6x Cnotilaphia afra Cobue
4x Synodontis petricola
(i would prefer Metriaclima fainziberi Hongi Is instead of Cobue but they seem to grow too big and too aggressive. is there anyway i can introduce they to the list?)

Does it looks ok?

Thanks in advance for all suggestions, comments and advises.
 

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I would go with less species and larger group sizes, say 5 species max, and 6-8 of each species.

If you're interested in breeding at all, I wouldn't house the M. callainos and estherae together, or the estherae and Yellow labs.

You definitely want more than 3 Yellow labs in order to make them feel comfortable enough to behave normally. They tend to be easily stressed in smaller groups.

There could be some friction between saulosi males and the Cobue males. I don't think they'd crossbreed, but the boys might not take too well to each other.

I'd prefer the fainziberi, too, and if you reduce your species numbers to 5 groups, I think you could include them as one of your species. Stunning fish.

Here would be my picks from what you've got for 5 species:

M. callainos 6 (preferably just one very happy male)
Yellow labs 8 (male/female ratio won't be important)
Ps. flavus 4-5 (females are drab, wouldn't want alot of those)
M. cyaneorhabdos 6-8
M. fainziberi 6

The petricolas would just be icing on the cake!
 

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Thanks cichlidaholic.

If you're interested in breeding at all, I wouldn't house the M. callainos and estherae together, or the estherae and Yellow labs.
I not really into breeding, and if so it wouldn't be for sale. I like M. callainos for their blue, estherae for their orange (female) and Yellow Labs for their yellow.

You definitely want more than 3 Yellow labs in order to make them feel comfortable enough to behave normally. They tend to be easily stressed in smaller groups.
More Yellow labs it shall be. How about 6?

There could be some friction between saulosi males and the Cobue males. I don't think they'd crossbreed, but the boys might not take too well to each other.
Shouldn't be a problem if i remove Ps saulosi and replace Cobue with M fainziberi.

I'd prefer the fainziberi, too, and if you reduce your species numbers to 5 groups, I think you could include them as one of your species. Stunning fish
OK, gonna keep the M fainziberi, so who is going?
Hmm..... P. sp Acei can go and .....maybe P. saulosi, that's as far as i can go :( (love to have some orange female M estherae).

How about this list? :fish:
6x M callainos
6x M estherae (1 male all females when they are adult)
8x L caeruleus
4x Ps flavus
6x M cyaneorhabdos
6x M fainziberi

Please tell me this is ok. I will made a bunch of caves if required.

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What's the dimension of the tank?

Here's my pick: :wink: :D

10-12 Yellow Lab
8 M. Estherae (1M:7F)
8 M. Maingano
8 M. Callainos
4 M. sp "Zebra Chilumba" Luwino reef (1M:3F):thumb:
4 Ps. Flavus (1M: 3F)
6 Syno. Petricola
 

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Thanks jhunbj.
Spent to much time already on research, probably gonna get confused.
Can you help me work around my list instead?

Thanks.
btw, tank is 72"Lx 24"H x18"D.
 

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I'd lower the numbers since you are going with 6 species instead of the suggested 5:

5x M callainos 1m:4f
5x M estherae 1m:4f
6x L caeruleus
5x Ps flavus 1m:4f
5x M cyaneorhabdos 1m:4f
5x M fainziberi 1m:4f

Definitely a group of 3-6 Synodontis Multipunctatus to take care of hybrid fry!
 

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I'm with DJRansom, although i enjoy breeding and would leave out the estherae
 

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Gibbs said:
I'm with DJRansom, although i enjoy breeding and would leave out the estherae
I'm with Gibbs! :thumb:
 

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DJRansome said:
I'd lower the numbers since you are going with 6 species instead of the suggested 5:

5x M callainos 1m:4f
5x M estherae 1m:4f
6x L caeruleus
5x Ps flavus 1m:4f
5x M cyaneorhabdos 1m:4f
5x M fainziberi 1m:4f

Definitely a group of 3-6 Synodontis Multipunctatus to take care of hybrid fry!
I don't quite understand y u want to lower the number of YL and M. Cyaneorhabdos. :-? The guy want some color in his tank, and instead u increase the number of (drab looking) female Flavus and Fainziberi? Guys, it's a 6ft. tank with 2 HOB and a canister filter, he could easily put at least 40 fish in there with no problem. I agree with lowering the number of Estherae to 5 though. :D
 

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I have the same tank footprint. I do have 40+ fish in mine, but half of them are dwarf species. OP indicated that he was NOT willing to change the list. Flavus, Maingano and Fainziberi are aggressive so IMO would do better with plenty of females.
 

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Thanks for all the concerns, fellow members.

New Starter stocklist, :fish:
6x M callainos
8x L caeruleus
4x Ps flavus
6x M cyaneorhabdos
6x M fainziberi
6x Synodontis petricola

Does it look better now? :)
Looking into juvies so i can't ask for specific sex, how?

Can someone please PM the best way to get my stock?
Did a check at library, emal a couple of online retailer but their responses weren't very positive when i ask them to recommend me a stocklist as well as shipping fee to Las Vegas.

Thanks in advance.
 

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live2bet said:
Thanks for all the concerns, fellow members.

New Starter stocklist, :fish:
6x M callainos
8x L caeruleus
4x Ps flavus
6x M cyaneorhabdos
6x M fainziberi
6x Synodontis petricola

Does it look better now? :)
Looking into juvies so i can't ask for specific sex, how?

Can someone please PM the best way to get my stock?
Did a check at library, emal a couple of online retailer but their responses weren't very positive when i ask them to recommend me a stocklist as well as shipping fee to Las Vegas.

Thanks in advance.
:fish:
 

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Guess it ok huh?
Gonna order from Bluegrasscichlids on Monday, stop me please if my stocklist isn't gonna to work.
Is about $5 per fish except for the Synodontis petricola which is like @$10 each.
Are the Synodontis petricola this costly?

Let me know please.
Thanks in advance.
 

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Stock list will fine mate.
That sounds like a pretty good price to :thumb:
Good luck
 

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The prices are good, stock list sounds fine.

Good luck!
 

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live2bet said:
Btw cichlidaholic, is that a Metriaclima callainos or a M. estherae (your avatar)?
That's my favourite cichlid...Ever...

Elvis, the callainos! :lol:

They rarely get names in my tanks, but this guy earned it. He was almost 7 inches - the most stunning one I've ever seen.

I wish I still had him... :(
 
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