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265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby fishboy75 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:24 pm

Hi, originally I was going to convert my tank into an all male hap and peacock tank with some of the yellow labs I have mixed in. After doing extensive research on this forum as well as others I have decided to go a different route. I'm thinking about 3 or 4 less aggressive species of mbuna and maybe adding 1 or 2 from Lake Victoria. Also, would like to add 2 or 3 medium large hap or peacocks for fry control and different color. As I previously stated, I already have the yellow labs and would need to cut the group of 35+ down significantly. The sizes range from fry to full grown adults. I also have six Syno Multipunctatus which are actually more likely Syno Grandiops based off another thread on here. I have had them for 12 years and they haven't grown much from the 4 inches they were when I bought them. I'll give you my proposed stocking list and let everyone dissect it for me:

Mbuna- most certain

Labidochromis Caeruleus
Pseudotropheus sp. Acei Yellow Tail
Metriaclima sp. Dolphin- Giant Demasoni

Lake Victoria possibilities:

Paralabidochromis chromogynos- I like the interesting look of the females but might be a little meek to be kept with mbuna.

Christmas Fulu, Kyoga Flameback, Hippo Point Salmon, Pundamilia nyererei or any other red hap that anyone can suggest. My only dislike of any of these fish is that the females seem to be pretty drab.

Haps/ Peacocks- main purpose to provide different shapes and colors and also help with fry control

S. Fryeri Electric Blue- seem to coexist fairly well with mbuna, keep their color even when not the most dominant and don't get big enough to pose a threat to adult mbuna

Eureka Red, Lemon Jake and/ or Lwanda peacocks- probably the most feisty of the Aulonocara

Another mbuna I would be interested in but might be too aggressive is Labeotropheus Trewavasae Red

If keeping 4 or 5 different species what is a good number of each to shoot for? Was thinking about 10-12. Thanks for any thoughts, experiences and criticisms you might have to share. Im also going to post this on monsterfishkeepers.com so I can get as much information and input as possible. I know there are members here that frequent that site as well, like DJ Ransome and Deeda who regularly answer questions here and there. Thanks again.
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:35 pm

What is the length of the tank?

Reports on giant demasoni say they are skittish. The fulu is timid and best in a species tank. The nyererei is aggressive and best in a species tank. Flameback did not do well with haps and peacocks for me...it was pale. Other claim to have had success.
125G Borleyi, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Similis, Petricola
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby fishboy75 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:07 pm

7 feet long. I have read that the Giant Demasoni were less aggressive and hard to breed but i hadn't come across skittish. I figured they should be ok with the Labs and Acei at least. Shooting for a less aggressive tank and not looking to keep fry.
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby shiftyfox » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:57 am

If you do go with the giant Demasoni and other two Mbuna species let us know how it goes, a similar combination I want to try for my next tank.
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby fishboy75 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:17 pm

Will do. Was hoping someone who has kept them before would weigh in. Also, the same for the Paralabidochromis chromogynos or the Paralabidochromis sp. Red Fin Piebald which is very similar. Thanks
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby Fogelhund » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:12 am

The comments about the Giant Demasoni are refelctive of my experiences as well. I found them to be a fish that hid in the rocks a lot, and weren't very showy. Maybe a good option would be some Cynotilapia zebroides instead. A small mbuna, with with similar Blue/Black patterns, and males can be quite spectacular.

Some victorians can be quite spectacular, if you find good quality... but that's the problem, I rarely see good quality anymore. If you can find good quality, go ahead and try it, you've got more latitude in a 7ft tank, than others who might have only tried such mixes in smaller tanks. Personally, I'd go for some Copadichromis borleyi instead.

Sci. fryeri would mix well, I've often kept mine with Yellow Labs, and other mbuna in the past.
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby fishboy75 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:05 pm

Fogelhund wrote:The comments about the Giant Demasoni are refelctive of my experiences as well. I found them to be a fish that hid in the rocks a lot, and weren't very showy. Maybe a good option would be some Cynotilapia zebroides instead. A small mbuna, with with similar Blue/Black patterns, and males can be quite spectacular.

Some victorians can be quite spectacular, if you find good quality... but that's the problem, I rarely see good quality anymore. If you can find good quality, go ahead and try it, you've got more latitude in a 7ft tank, than others who might have only tried such mixes in smaller tanks. Personally, I'd go for some Copadichromis borleyi instead.

Sci. fryeri would mix well, I've often kept mine with Yellow Labs, and other mbuna in the past.


Thanks for the feedback. Disappointing to hear about the Giant Demasoni. Were they in a species tank or mbuna community? If community, what were the other fish if you remember? I would probably switch off to Maingano if I'm further persuaded against keeping them. I did watch a couple videos of them on YouTube where they seemed pretty confident, one in a species tank and the other was a male in a mbuna community. Borleyi is a good recommendation for a reddish fish. I have seen some vendors with very red strains.
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby Fogelhund » Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:54 pm

I kept the giant demasoni in a 75 gallon mixed tank, though there was nothing in the tank that would come close to challenging them. The maingano are a very nice fish, but are probably going to be too aggressive for fryeri/borleyi etc... I get the appeal of nice males and females though. Cynotilapia sp. 'hara' have females that look better than most, and the males can be spectacular. They'd work.
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby fishboy75 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:41 pm

Fogelhund wrote:I kept the giant demasoni in a 75 gallon mixed tank, though there was nothing in the tank that would come close to challenging them. The maingano are a very nice fish, but are probably going to be too aggressive for fryeri/borleyi etc... I get the appeal of nice males and females though. Cynotilapia sp. 'hara' have females that look better than most, and the males can be spectacular. They'd work.


Great recommendation, I never would have thought about them. Ill have to see if my vendor can get them in. I guess I'll have to decide if I'm going just mbuna now or still want to add a couple haps into the mix. I really dont want too many fry to survive because I don't have anywhere to take them right now with alot of restrictions still in place
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Re: 265 gallon stocking list questions

Postby Fogelhund » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 pm

fishboy75 wrote:
Fogelhund wrote:I kept the giant demasoni in a 75 gallon mixed tank, though there was nothing in the tank that would come close to challenging them. The maingano are a very nice fish, but are probably going to be too aggressive for fryeri/borleyi etc... I get the appeal of nice males and females though. Cynotilapia sp. 'hara' have females that look better than most, and the males can be spectacular. They'd work.


Great recommendation, I never would have thought about them. Ill have to see if my vendor can get them in. I guess I'll have to decide if I'm going just mbuna now or still want to add a couple haps into the mix. I really dont want too many fry to survive because I don't have anywhere to take them right now with alot of restrictions still in place


If you go with the maingano, you might not mix them with fryeri/borleyi, but then you could put in some Dimidiochromis compressiceps instead... or a Nimbochromis...
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