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Stocking query

Postby Cichlidator » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:27 am

Hi,

I have a mixed mbuna, haps, peacock tank...I know, even a couple inadvertent females in there. But they actually get along, tank boss Mbuna only chases his gf and red zebra occasionally chases the other red zebra. Looking to re-home the females if I can. Haps wise there's a couple dolphins, Livingstonii and venustus. Attached a picture just setting the scene here.

I wanted to add the following to the tank. Any thoughts?


It's a Juwel Vision 450L tank with a SunSun 2000lph external filter and a Fluval Fx4, 60-70% water change and gravel siphon once a week.

Any thoughts and advice would be well appreciated.
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Re: Stocking query

Postby DJRansome » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:25 pm

How many fish are in the tank now? What are all the species? You have some large fish in there.

The peacocks you selected are hybrids between mbuna and peacock so on the aggressive side for peacocks. Even though the colors are different (the blotchy ones are called OB peacocks) the fish may view each other as competitors.

The sulphur head may not color well in an all-male tank even one with timid fish.

The tank is 55 inches long. What is the measurement on the side from front to back (not the middle)?
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75G Calvus, Similis, Petricola
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Re: Stocking query

Postby Cichlidator » Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:44 pm

Thanks for the reply. So here's the complete current stock list, looking to re-home the females and one of the red zebras or take to the LFS before adding any new fish.

Tank is 16" on the side and 24" in the middle.

1 Greshakei male Tank boss
1 Greshakei female
2 male red zebras
1 OB zebra female
1 OB zebra male
1 red top ndumbi female
1 jalo reef juvenile male

2 livingstonii
2 venustus
2 dolphins
2 obliquidens
2 nyererei

2 strawberry peacock
2 Baenschi/yellow peacock
1 Apache - blue with yellow stripe
1 stuartgranti/steveni female

All fish have been raised from juveniles together last year March with a few additions a few months in.

Have had a yellow marble previously and was told it was a lwanda OB, are all Peacock OB's crossed with Mbuna? It seemed more peacock like compared to the other two OB mbunas I have in there now.
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Re: Stocking query

Postby DJRansome » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:01 pm

Seems like you have plenty of fish already. Yes the blotch pattern does not occur in Aulonocara naturally.
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Re: Stocking query

Postby Cichlidator » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:05 pm

Tank is 62" long if that makes much of a difference, so you suggest no more fish?
What if I was to rehome all the mbuna, males as well?

Is there a ratio of fish to gallons to stick to?

Sorry for all the questions, was advised overstocking would be good to reduce aggression as long as filtration and maintenance was on point.
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Re: Stocking query

Postby DJRansome » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:18 pm

Is it 151cm? My conversion says that is 59 inches and change.

I count 21 fish and I like 18 males in a 72" tank for the proper overstocking to manage aggression. And those 18 would be fish that mature <= six inches. It is not by gallons, it is by length of the tank.

You may find that the fish you have duplicates of may develop aggression issues in a year or two. How long have they been together?
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Re: Stocking query

Postby Cichlidator » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:29 am

Sorry I must've hit 159 when converting. 59" it is.


Most have been together since March 2020, brought the mbuna first from a LFS.
Then a few weeks later an online order of the haps/peacocks. The haps/peacock order was dupiclated by the seller a week later hence all the pairs there. The first batch were all males, hard to tell about the second as they've all ended up being the less dominant ones so not sure.

So rehome all females and duplicates should bring me down to 12.
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