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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Fogelhund » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:08 pm

DJRansome wrote:Then I would do this:
1m:4f blue zebra, a.k.a. Metriaclima callainos
1m:4f yellow lab, a.k.a. Labidochromis caeruleus
1m:4f albino socolofi, a.k.a. Pseudotropheus socolofi
1m:7f johanni a.k.a. Melanochromis johannii


OP, did you want breeding groups? Or did you just want to find out if your fish would work in a 75 gallon? Would you prefer something like this, or just some random fish swimming in a tank?

This is going to be too many fish for a 75 gallon though. Unless it was massively overfiltered and weekely 50% water changes.
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:19 pm

DJRansome wrote:Then I would do this:
1m:4f blue zebra, a.k.a. Metriaclima callainos
1m:4f yellow lab, a.k.a. Labidochromis caeruleus
1m:4f albino socolofi, a.k.a. Pseudotropheus socolofi
1m:7f johanni a.k.a. Melanochromis johannii


So you’re saying 23 total correct?
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:25 pm

Fogelhund wrote:
DJRansome wrote:Then I would do this:
1m:4f blue zebra, a.k.a. Metriaclima callainos
1m:4f yellow lab, a.k.a. Labidochromis caeruleus
1m:4f albino socolofi, a.k.a. Pseudotropheus socolofi
1m:7f johanni a.k.a. Melanochromis johannii


OP, did you want breeding groups? Or did you just want to find out if your fish would work in a 75 gallon? Would you prefer something like this, or just some random fish swimming in a tank?

This is going to be too many fish for a 75 gallon though. Unless it was massively overfiltered and weekely 50% water changes.


Little bit of both, breeding and different breeds
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Fogelhund » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:52 pm

Releasethekracken wrote:
Fogelhund wrote:
DJRansome wrote:Then I would do this:
1m:4f blue zebra, a.k.a. Metriaclima callainos
1m:4f yellow lab, a.k.a. Labidochromis caeruleus
1m:4f albino socolofi, a.k.a. Pseudotropheus socolofi
1m:7f johanni a.k.a. Melanochromis johannii


OP, did you want breeding groups? Or did you just want to find out if your fish would work in a 75 gallon? Would you prefer something like this, or just some random fish swimming in a tank?

This is going to be too many fish for a 75 gallon though. Unless it was massively overfiltered and weekely 50% water changes.


Little bit of both, breeding and different breeds


If you could pick three types, out of the ones you have now, that you could get more of, which ones would those be?
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:10 pm

My maison reef died today, effects from the fish stores water parameters, I got him last week, im thinking of getting the sweedish super red hongi, so maybe replace the maison reef... but if I had to pick 3, maison reef, sweedish super red hongi, and either the johanni or yellow lab... too many red zebras may cause issues
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:13 pm

Fogelhund wrote:
DJRansome wrote:Then I would do this:
1m:4f blue zebra, a.k.a. Metriaclima callainos
1m:4f yellow lab, a.k.a. Labidochromis caeruleus
1m:4f albino socolofi, a.k.a. Pseudotropheus socolofi
1m:7f johanni a.k.a. Melanochromis johannii


OP, did you want breeding groups? Or did you just want to find out if your fish would work in a 75 gallon? Would you prefer something like this, or just some random fish swimming in a tank?

This is going to be too many fish for a 75 gallon though. Unless it was massively overfiltered and weekely 50% water changes.


My maison reef died today, effects from the fish stores water parameters, I got him last week, im thinking of getting the sweedish super red hongi, so maybe replace the maison reef... but if I had to pick 3, maison reef, sweedish super red hongi, and either the johanni or yellow lab... too many red zebras may cause issues
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby DJRansome » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:33 pm

I would not do 2 blue barred fish...are you sure you have johanni and not cyaneorhabdos Maingano?
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:02 pm

DJRansome wrote:I would not do 2 blue barred fish...are you sure you have johanni and not cyaneorhabdos Maingano?


What is the other blue barred fish? The blue zebra? Would the hongi be too similar? I honestly wanted a maingano but believe I settled for a johanni , let me take a pic and u can tell me
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:07 pm

DJRansome wrote:I would not do 2 blue barred fish...are you sure you have johanni and not cyaneorhabdos Maingano?


How do i post a photo?
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby DJRansome » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:05 pm

Your pick was maison reef and hongi. I thought you meant to buy more. There are instructions on posting photos in the sticky at the beginning of each forum.

A picture won't help ME tell you if the fish is johannii or maingano...the easy way to tell is look at juveniles. johannii are yellow/orange and maingano are blue striped.

If you only have an adult male, they look very much the same.
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:38 am

DJRansome wrote:Your pick was maison reef and hongi. I thought you meant to buy more. There are instructions on posting photos in the sticky at the beginning of each forum.

A pick won't help ME tell you if the fish is johannii or maingano...the easy way to tell is look at juveniles. johannii are yellow/orange and maingano are blue striped.

If you only have an adult male, they look very much the same.


So hongi and maison reef cant go together? Also, im going to stay with the 50 gallon I believe, so how many mbuna total would you say?
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby james1983 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:07 am

The 50 gallon, only being 36", will greatly reduce the number or fish you can keep and eliminate the idea of having more than one species. You'll want to look at smaller, more peaceful species. Labs, soulousi, rusties, or maybe cynotilapia.
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:26 am

james1983 wrote:The 50 gallon, only being 36", will greatly reduce the number or fish you can keep and eliminate the idea of having more than one species. You'll want to look at smaller, more peaceful species. Labs, soulousi, rusties, or maybe cynotilapia.


Could I keep 10 mbuna in a 50?
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby DJRansome » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:56 pm

Maybe if you choose of the species james1983 listed.. Think in terms of the 36"...not the 50G. I could fit more fish in a 48" tank with only 33G than a 50G tank that is 36". Saulosi are often popular to try in a small tank because both males and females are colorful and you get the blue barred male and the yellow-orange females.
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Re: How many mbuna in a 50 or 75 gallon tank?

Postby Releasethekracken » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:18 pm

DJRansome wrote:Maybe if you choose of the species james1983 listed.. Think in terms of the 36"...not the 50G. I could fit more fish in a 48" tank with only 33G than a 50G tank that is 36". Saulosi are often popular to try in a small tank because both males and females are colorful and you get the blue barred male and the yellow-orange females.


Okay but I mean temporarily... like I could have 9 or 10 in the 50 gallon until they get bigger, and then transition to a 75. 50 gallon would just be while they’re juvenile until they’re full size
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