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Have you added plants to your mbuna tank?

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Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby GuitarShark » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:13 pm

I wanted to post this to share my recent success in planting my 75 gallon Mbuna tank. I have planted it with Java fern, Amazon sword, water lettuce, and various types of Anubias with great success. I have an 8 inch bumblebee who I was sure would kill the plants, but he has not touched them. Anyone who is wishing to plant a Cichlid tank, it is possible.
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5 gallon fry tank
165 gallon turtle pond

Just your average fish keeper tryin to avoid turtle disaster.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby sir_keith » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:42 pm

Yes, it is possible, but some of the plants in your tank will not survive long-term in hard, alkaline water. The Anubias and Microsorum should be fine; the others, not so much. Some people also have success with Vallisneria in African cichlid tanks; I have not. :fish:

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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby DJRansome » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:05 pm

How long have the plants and fish been in the tank?
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby Sinister-Kisses » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm

How recent is your recent success? How long have these plants been in the tank?
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby sir_keith » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:02 am

DJRansome wrote:How long have the plants and fish been in the tank?
Sinister-Kisses wrote:How recent is your recent success? How long have these plants been in the tank?


I assume that both of you are directing these questions to the OP, but just as a point of information, the Anubias shown in my Featherfin 125 have been in that tank for just over 2 years, and they have grown very substantially during that time. :thumb:
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby DJRansome » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:47 am

The problem with the vote is I can say I added plants with mbuna, but you can't say whether it was a success or a failure. For me it was a failure.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby sir_keith » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:06 pm

DJRansome wrote:The problem with the vote is I can say I added plants with mbuna, but you can't say whether it was a success or a failure. For me it was a failure.


I also think it will be a failure with Mbuna most of the time. It is clear that Anubias, for example, do fine in hard alkaline water if the fishes leave them alone, but if you have Mbuna grazing on them all the time to collect algae, the leaves of the Anubias become damaged from the constant rasping to such an extent that the plants eventually die. I've seen this happen also with Tropheus. Java fern might fare better, but I've never been able to grow this stuff long-term under any conditions. :o
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby DJRansome » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:46 pm

I got java fern to do OK with haps, peacocks and Tangs, but only with CO2 injection.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby ironspider » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:43 am

Yes, I've added plants, but no they didn't work out with mbuna.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby Trademark » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:00 pm

I have juvenile Mbunas with Anubias. They are picking on the leaves and the roots. Looks like they’re just picking off algae. I understand that it’s not good for the plants, but is it ok for the fish. I have Acei, Rusty’s and Yellow Labs.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby sir_keith » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:45 am

Trademark wrote:I have juvenile Mbunas with Anubias. They are picking on the leaves and the roots. Looks like they’re just picking off algae. I understand that it’s not good for the plants, but is it ok for the fish. I have Acei, Rusty’s and Yellow Labs.


That may work whilst the fishes are little, but when they grow up, not so much... :o
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby noki » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:14 pm

I would only call the setup a success if the plants grow and get bigger/ spread. Watching the plants slowly die and claim it is a success because they didn't get ripped up is not much of a success. Probably need more light if you are serious about growing plants.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby Trademark » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:57 am

Sir_Keith and Noki,

It’s looking as though that’s what’s going to happen. It’s been a couple of weeks now that the juvies and the plants have been together. Still looks good but at the rate they’re nipping on the leaves and roots the plants won’t thrive as they should. I love the way they fill the upper half of the tank though. Any suggestions, artificial plants?

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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby fishboy75 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:43 am

Check out http://www.elitecichlids.com

Great quality and I think they look pretty realistic. The bamboo ones are my favorite and I think one of the cheaper ones. They sway very nicely in the current too. This is a picture from a couple months ago. The bamboo is the one in the back on the left hand side. I added another one over there and it looks great. Very happy with their products. There are 10% off codes available online as well from various YouTubers that use them.
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Re: Yes plants and mbuna do work

Postby Trademark » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:22 pm

Thanks fishboy, I’ll check it out.

On another note, don’t know why my pic came upside down
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