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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:46 pm

shiftyfox wrote:The colour contrast of yellow labs and Mainganos is lovely, i looked at numerous colour combos at my breeders setup and apart from yellow labs and demasoni this is the second best choice with less hassle.

My rule for a colourful tank
Bright Yellow
Dark blue/black
Light blue
Striped


I might be tempted to ad albino to the list.

How about some advice in this direction?

what would happen if I only added three groups but doubled their numbers (two males and 10 females)?
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:52 pm

Two males focus on each other.

Why not 3m:9f of the saulosi? You will get more of the blue barred males.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:17 pm

DJRansome wrote:Two males focus on each other.

Why not 3m:9f of the saulosi? You will get more of the blue barred males.


So the idea of having fewer groups but more fish in each group is not a bad idea?
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:35 pm

No...even a single species would be fine. Four species or less.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:35 pm

3 male and 9 females
Iodotropheus sprengerae ''Rusty'' 1.5-2'' 7.00 ea

3 male and 9 females
Chindongo saulosi Taiwanee Reef 1.5''+ 9.00 ea

3 male and 9 females
Pseudotropheus sp. ''Acei'' Luwala Reef ''Yellow Tail Acei'' 1.5-2'' 7.00 ea

3
Synodontis lucipinnis ''Dwarf Petricola'' 1'' 15.00 ea

and maybe?
Labidochromis caeruleus
Labidochromis caeruleus Lion's Cove ''Yellow Lab'' 1.5-2'' 7.00 ea

Thoughts, here is the current arrangement of the tank (will not stay that way, have change it around several time already)
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:54 pm

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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:27 am

Acei and yellow lab males and females look alike, so whether you have 1m or 3m you are not getting more colorful fish.

Take a look at the saulosi females versus the yellow labs. Not a significant contrast between them. They are OK together, but your tank will have a lot of yellow. Would you consider the white labs?

Why not 5 Synodontis lucipinnis? They are better in larger groups. 5-7 seems to be the ideal.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby Deeda » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:29 am

36 cichlids sounds like too many in a 48"L x 18" W tank to me, did we lose sight of the tank dimensions?

I know there are a few ways that people suggest to stock Malawi tanks, one is no or few rocks that allow fish to establish territories and lots of fish and the other is lots of rocks and fewer fish that let the fish establish territories. I'm not sure which method is the best but I prefer the latter method as I enjoy seeing the more natural behavior using the rocks.

12 Pseudotropheus sp. Acei 'Yellow tail' seem more suited to a 72" long tank as they get pretty big. Just my opinion after all.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:56 am

DJRansome wrote:Acei and yellow lab males and females look alike, so whether you have 1m or 3m you are not getting more colorful fish.

Take a look at the saulosi females versus the yellow labs. Not a significant contrast between them. They are OK together, but your tank will have a lot of yellow. Would you consider the white labs?

Why not 5 Synodontis lucipinnis? They are better in larger groups. 5-7 seems to be the ideal.


I agree on all accounts, 4 Synodontis lucipinnis a good compromise?

Deeda wrote:36 cichlids sounds like too many in a 48"L x 18" W tank to me, did we lose sight of the tank dimensions?

I know there are a few ways that people suggest to stock Malawi tanks, one is no or few rocks that allow fish to establish territories and lots of fish and the other is lots of rocks and fewer fish that let the fish establish territories. I'm not sure which method is the best but I prefer the latter method as I enjoy seeing the more natural behavior using the rocks.

12 Pseudotropheus sp. Acei 'Yellow tail' seem more suited to a 72" long tank as they get pretty big. Just my opinion after all.


I do not like the over stocking idea.

I see three good territories for the fish to establish in this tank.

In the last setup I had I had (20) fish mostly pairs with 6 Clown Louchs.

The picture is deceiving, the tank is 18 inch deep and 30 tall, those are BIG rocks in the tank, One of them runs from front to back and is 10 inches tall.

Thoughts on;
5 Synodontis lucipinnis ''Dwarf Petricola'' 1'' 15.00 ea
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1 M 5 F Iodotropheus sprengerae ''Rusty'' 1.5-2'' 7.00 ea
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1 M 5 F Chindongo saulosi Taiwanee Reef 1.5''+ 9.00 ea
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1 M 5 F Labidochromis caeruleus Nkhata Bay ''White Lab'' 1.5''+ 9.00 ea
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thoughts? Never "Planned" fish before, just purchased what I saw and liked at LFS
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:01 pm

Are you wanted to limit the cost of Synodontis by stocking less than 5 individuals? There is no requirement that you have Synodontis...why not skip them? They do not count in the cichlid max for the tank.

For cichlids I would have at least 20 after removing problem fish, so with 3 species I would go 1m:6f of each.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:30 pm

DJRansome wrote:Are you wanted to limit the cost of Synodontis by stocking less than 5 individuals? There is no requirement that you have Synodontis...why not skip them? They do not count in the cichlid max for the tank.

For cichlids I would have at least 20 after removing problem fish, so with 3 species I would go 1m:6f of each.


Cost is not a factor, worried about the number of fish.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:58 pm

I would worry about 4 but not 5 on the Synodontis.

Africans are not a fish that you can stock lightly if you prefer.

5 Synodontis seem to be ideal if you are going to have them. I might say 3 for a 36" tank but 48" or 72" I would say 5.

20 cichlids in 48x18 seems to be a good guideline for a minimum to manage aggression.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:32 pm

DJRansome wrote:I would worry about 4 but not 5 on the Synodontis.

Africans are not a fish that you can stock lightly if you prefer.

5 Synodontis seem to be ideal if you are going to have them. I might say 3 for a 36" tank but 48" or 72" I would say 5.

20 cichlids in 48x18 seems to be a good guideline for a minimum to manage aggression.



Seems right to me.

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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:09 pm

Same as the cichlids.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pm

DJRansome wrote:Same as the cichlids.


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