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Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:25 am

Setting up a new 5', 120 gallon strictly Mbuna tank. Need your help picking the most awesome barred fish out there.

Tank mates will be...

Red Top Thumbi West 1m:7f
Maingano 1m:7f
Elongatus Chewere 1m:7f

What barred mbuna would YOU add to this mix?

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby DJRansome » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:23 pm

:thumb: The elongatus are barred. You are done.

Pseudotropheus sp. "Perspicax Orange Cap" ? You are going aggressive this time?
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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:51 pm

DJRansome wrote::thumb: The elongatus are barred. You are done.

Pseudotropheus sp. "Perspicax Orange Cap" ? You are going aggressive this time?
DJ, I don't consider Chewere as barred. I want to add a fourth species with nicely defined barring.
This is for a new 5' 120 gallon project for the basement. I've switched over to haps and peacocks probably over a decade ago and now I'm itching for a mbuna tank, I miss it.

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby DJRansome » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:08 pm

I did not find the mix of heavy bars and light bars to work. But Cynotilapia sp. hara is the most opposite of the chewere that you will find.

For me the hara survived but did not show their best colors in the tank with a barred fish.

The fish consider each other barred, even if you don't.

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:34 pm

DJRansome wrote:I did not find the mix of heavy bars and light bars to work. But Cynotilapia sp. hara is the most opposite of the chewere that you will find.

For me the hara survived but did not show their best colors in the tank with a barred fish.

The fish consider each other barred, even if you don't.

https://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpbb/vie ... 9&t=256964
DJ, on my list it's the Labeotropheus Trewavasae Red Top, not the Persipax.

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby DJRansome » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:40 pm

Oh nice! I never heard them called Red Tops.
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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:54 pm

DJRansome wrote:Oh nice! I never heard them called Red Tops.
DJ please feel free to suggest a 4 species mix. The only MUST HAVE for me is the Labeotropheus Trewavasae Thumbi West.
With that group we will have the light blue and the pale orange.

What I don't want...
Labidochromis (any)
Red Zebra
Acei
Rusty

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby jcover » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:27 pm

Cynotilapia species are nice... males are anyways..
Pseudotropheus demasoni are very beautiful, but present unique challenges.
Saulosi are amazing fish to keep. Very colourful males and females. Or Pseudotropheus msobo?
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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:31 am

jcover wrote:Cynotilapia species are nice... males are anyways..
Pseudotropheus demasoni are very beautiful, but present unique challenges.
Saulosi are amazing fish to keep. Very colourful males and females. Or Pseudotropheus msobo?
Demasoni I don't want to go there too much of a headache.
Saulosi may be an option actually.

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby DJRansome » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:04 am

If you want a blue barred fish I would do the hara.

I think they will do better with the elongatus than any other blue barred fish. They have colorful females. You don't have any other mid-blue fish.

The yellow-orange saulosi would not be a huge contrast with the pale orange labeotropheus females. IMO you need more blue.
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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:10 am

DJRansome wrote:If you want a blue barred fish I would do the hara.

I think they will do better with the elongatus than any other blue barred fish. They have colorful females. You don't have any other mid-blue fish.

The yellow-orange saulosi would not be a huge contrast with the pale orange labeotropheus females. IMO you need more blue.
So...
Labeotropheus Trewavasae
Maingano
Chewere
Hara

Too much blue maybe?

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby DJRansome » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:43 pm

If you want bars but are willing to skip the blue, consider the Victorian astatotilapia? Black/white bars and males also have the red and yellow.
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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby Mudkicker1 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:57 pm

DJRansome wrote:If you want bars but are willing to skip the blue, consider the Victorian astatotilapia? Black/white bars and males also have the red and yellow.
Nah, I don't want to mix lakes.
I think that the Hara will fit the bill for bars so I'll try Trewavasae Thumbi, Maingano, Chewere and Hara. I plan to have lots of Trewavasae female so the color mix should be quite even.
OR
Trewavasae Thumbi, Maingano, Elongatus Mpanga, and a very red strain of Estherae.

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Re: Help me choose a barred mbuna

Postby noki » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:30 pm

Cynotilapia "afra" types have the best barring IMO, and it is fun to watch the males color up from dull to full dominant BB color, often very quickly.
Hara might be very good, since they are the light opposite of the dark Chewere, and you get some blue in the tank.
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