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stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:32 am

Filteration is a Sun Sun 703b canister filter and a Marineland penguin 350. I'm a total newbie to the hobby, so i dont know if my filtration is overkill or not. Well i want to stock my tank with peacocks and some haps. However, im lost on where to start. All male tank preferably. If anyone can point in the right direction it will be greatly appreciated or give a list of species to begin with.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby DJRansome » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:53 am

Welcome to Cichlid-forum!

What are the dimensions of the tank? What is the shape of the tank?

Step one is to cycle the tank with ammonia. Allow six weeks. See the article in Cichlid-forum Library on how to do this.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:02 am

The tank is 18.4 x 36.4 x 25, its a 65 gallon actually.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:16 am

my plan was going let my lfs let me borrow some media, or take a sponge filter there. So I can cut down the long process of the cycle.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby DJRansome » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:59 am

This tank is not long enough for an all-male Lake Malawi tank IME.

Stocking is by length (not gallons) for these territorial fish. You ideally want a tank that is 48" by 18" for all-male but 48" x 12" would be the minimum I would do...even that is difficult and challenging.

With a 36" tank I would consider a small Lake Tanganyikan community (like shellies and julidochhromis) or POSSIBLY a single species mixed gender tank for Chindongo saulosi with 3m:9f.

Do not substitute other species for the saulosi...it seems to be the only one that has a good chance of working in a 36" tank with 12 fish and it has the advantage of being a dimorphic species so you get 2 colors.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:54 pm

So i cant use it as a grow out tank, planning on getting a 125. Appreciate the input..i will look into that species
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby DJRansome » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:57 pm

You could use it as a grow-out tank, but you would need the 125G right away.

The most efficient way to get an all-male tank is to buy mature males...so no growing out required, and also not a good fit for a 36" tank.

Chindongo saulosi are mbuna...not ideal for all-male.

Read the all-male article in the Cichlid-forum Library for some pros and cons.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:02 am

I'm going to go with your suggestion with the dwarf mbuna and your stocking tip.. This could be a great way to get my feet wet with the hobby, before jumping in with the haps and peacocks. I'll get the Pseudotropheus Saulosi with that ratio you provided. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby DJRansome » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:56 am

You don't want them with the haps and peacocks though, so you will need extra tanks when you do the haps and peacocks in the 72" tank. With haps and peacocks you have to rehome problem males over the first two years or so.

Pseudotropheus saulosi is the "old" name. They have been reclassified.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:01 am

I wont be able to add a 2 yellow labs or the red zebra
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby DJRansome » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:45 am

To the 72" peacock tank? Yes labs (but not two) and no saulosi or red zebra.

If you want labs in the 36" tank I would do 1m:4f only. Then those can go in the peacock tank.

I would not put red zebra in a 36" tank at all.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:13 am

K.. So this is my strategy please feel free to edit or change of need be. Learning curve, pesudeo tropheous 2m-9f, labs 1m-4f. Total of 16 fish..
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby DJRansome » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:27 am

Do not put tropheus or tropheops in a 36" tank.

1m:4f Labidochromis careulus is fully stocked. This has the advantage that you can eventually place them in the 72" tank with the peacocks, and free up your 36" tank for hospital/time out/quarantine tank when you have to remove or replace a troublesome male in the 72" tank...you will need a spare tank for the first 2 years or so at least.
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Re: stocking a 60 gallon with african peacocks and haps.

Postby nicholascalhoun » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:10 am

Got it.. Thanks for the advice.
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