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Postby GuitarShark » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:11 pm

Hello. How do I stop an ammonia spike? I wondered if I could possible add 7 Mbunas to a new tank. Thanks
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Re: Stocking

Postby Deeda » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:52 pm

There are a couple ways to reduce ammonia in an aquarium, one is to perform a water change AND add a water conditioner that is appropriate for your tap water parameters and the 2nd is to use a product like Prime water conditioner to temporarily make the ammonia non-toxic to your fish.

Can you provide more details on how long this tank has been set up and whether you properly cycled it so that you have zero ammonia, zero nitrite and some level of nitrate above zero.

I don't recommend adding any fish to this tank if it is not properly cycled.
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:03 pm

This tank is currently cycling. I asked because I wanted to add fish as soon as it is is done and get a decent amount in the tank to reduce aggression. I am fish in cycling and have been so far for 2 weeks. Sorry to ask another question, but the conditioner you mentioned, could that be used to detoxify water so I could add cichlids during cycling?
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Re: Stocking

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:56 pm

I would not cycle with fish, and if you are I would not add cichlids. Some use feeder goldfish.
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Re: Stocking

Postby ken31cay » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:01 pm

GuitarShark wrote:...but the conditioner you mentioned, could that be used to detoxify water so I could add cichlids during cycling?


Seachem Prime or Safe only detoxifies ammonia/nitrite for around 24 hours so in theory you'd need to keep re-adding the Prime/Safe, but I question whether this method would even allow the cycle to progress. IMO in your situation the better way is to keep doing large daily or every other day water changes for the next 3-4 weeks. The amount or % would depend on the tank size/bioload. For fully stocked tanks I'd do 50% daily water changes for 5-6 weeks to cycle my tanks.
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:01 pm

Ok one more question. I just tested for ammonia and nitrite. Both read 0. I am confused. I thought ammonia would be in the tank by now. Just a little confused on why they read zero. How am I even supposed to tell if it is done cycling if it reads no ammonia? Thanks for all of the help guys.
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Re: Stocking

Postby DJRansome » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:21 pm

It can take 2 weeks for ammonia to start showing up and nitrite will not start until ammonia has been there a while. The nitrite producing bacteria need a chance to grow and multiply and produce nitrite waste.

Plan on six weeks.
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:36 pm

Thank you guys so much. You guys have been super helpful.
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:17 pm

One more thing, just tested tank. No ammonia or nitrite, but there is nitrate. Is this even possible on the second week? Thank you again for all of the responses.
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Re: Stocking

Postby ken31cay » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:31 pm

How many fish do you have in there right now and how long have they been in there? Are the tank, water, and filter media all new prior to adding the fish?
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Re: Stocking

Postby DJRansome » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:15 pm

Also what are the test results from your tap water?
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:15 pm

I have 6 goldfish and they have been in there for 2 weeks. All media is new except thermometer. Same with water and tank. All rock is old and I have a bit of used substrate. I have no ammonia, nitrate, or nitrite in tap water. Yet somehow, I have nitrate in tank water after 2 weeks.
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Re: Stocking

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:27 pm

If the rock came from a cycled tank and same with the substrate...assuming they were kept wet and oxygenated during the move from old tank to new tank...you may have established bacteria growing on the rock and substrate that is helping.
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:05 pm

Ok. Thank you. Will rest again and post results.
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Re: Stocking

Postby GuitarShark » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:06 pm

Test not rest sorry.
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