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mild mannered blue mbuna?

Postby TailorO » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:22 pm

I was wondering if anyone knew of any less agressive blue mbuna that would be small enough for a 55gal? I have two Kenyi i will most likely be ggetting rid of but without them most of my tank is yellow and orange. i would like to add some more colour, any suggestions of what to replace the Kenyi with?
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Postby khaki » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:27 pm

there are demasoni which are very aggressive but has a very nice "blue." then there are the white top hara that are also aggressive but not as much.
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Postby TailorO » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:43 pm

it's very frustrating. all of my LFS just have one tank labeled "African Cichlids" so it is allways difficult trying to figure out exactly what you are looking at much less buying :x
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Postby myselfdotcom » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:00 pm

cobalt?
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Postby bma57 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:55 pm

TailorO wrote:it's very frustrating. all of my LFS just have one tank labeled "African Cichlids" so it is allways difficult trying to figure out exactly what you are looking at much less buying :x
I've gone off on the same rant. I'm in the Bay Area too and have had no luck finding a LFS with a decent selection of purebred, healthy, correctly labeled African cichlids. I hear there's a really good one in the South Bay, but haven't made the trip yet.

P. acei are very mild mannered and a beautiful blue. 50 gal. might be a little tight though. Check the profiles and other peoples' suggestions.
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Postby DJRansome » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:07 pm

Confirm this is the fish list you plan to keep after returning fish?

[quote="TailorO"]
2 red zebra
2 ob zebra
1 albino zebra
1 cobalt zebra
1 Labidochromis sp. "Hongi"
2 yellow labs
1 that might be a hongi or might be a rusty, not sure which
3 clown loaches
1 pleco
1 red tailed shark

The pairs are a problem, so next step is to decide if you want all male or male/female harems. myselfdotcom is right, expanding the cobalt group will give you more blue and they are not too aggressive.

But you should decide what else you want to keep first so you can minimize hybridization. Three species in a 55G will give you favorable odds of success.

Best of luck! :)
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Postby Dewdrop » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:59 pm

I think you're gonna find that those red zebras will get kinda mean too once they mature. Maybe they are better if you only have one male and 3-4 females of them.
Mainganos aren't to bad and are a pretty blue. They don't get big either

I think a nice looking 55g. tank would be mainganos & yellow labs (keep the pleco and clown loaches too if the mbuna don't bother the loaches). You could add to these as you found them, the mainganos and more yellow labs, maybe a few more loaches too. Keeping singles isn't a good idea unless it's an all male tank and like DJRandome said, they aren't pairing fish either. There should be 3-4 females per male of a species.

I'm in the same boat too. The only thing availible in a 60 mile radius of me is assorted african tanks and then only one per LFS. I bet once I get a bigger tank going, I'll be making road trips looking for fish. I just wish gas wasn't so high :( .
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Postby TailorO » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:38 pm

how am i supposed to know which are male and which are female?
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Postby DJRansome » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:48 pm

You can wait until they mature and remove the ones you are trying to eliminate. But it's good to have a plan so (a) you know what to watch for, and (b) you have a spare tank and used filter to remove fish at a moment's notice.

Are you thinking male only, or mixed genders?
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Postby noki » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:23 pm

Socolofi and Cobalt Zebras are very common blue Mbuna.

They can be aggressive, like most Mbuna, but are not impossible by any means.
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Postby TailorO » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:01 pm

i dont know. what ever is more colourful and less likely to kill each other
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Postby cichlidaholic » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:26 pm

Are you going with an all male tank, or breeding groups?

If you wish to breed, I would determine 3 species (no more than that for your tank size) that won't be apt to hybridize and work on the tank from that point of view, rather than seeking out a lone blue fish.

If you go all male, you already have a Cobalt from the list that DJRansome posted...So you might look for a blue barred fish instead.

If you don't go all male and go with breeding groups, you need to pick one of the zebra variants and get rid of the others.

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Postby Tula » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:02 pm

I've always like the Ps. Socolofi for blue, I've never owned them but wish i had incorporated them into my original set up.
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Postby TailorO » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:13 pm

i do not plan on breeding. i would have no where to put them
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Postby cichlidaholic » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:17 pm

Then I would remove your females first before adding more males.

Concentrate on making sure the males don't closely resemble each other.

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