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Postby cichlidaholic » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:26 pm

You have some really great pics in that thread, why_spyder! Just one look makes it easy to see why these guys are so desirable.

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Postby maxwell1295 » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:03 pm

That thread is linked to in a bunch of forums. I did a Google search on "Gallireya Reef" and that was one of the links that showed up.
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Postby teqvet » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:02 am

why_spyder wrote:
maxwell1295 wrote:Here are some more good discussions that may be of interest:

http://wiscichlidforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2430


Hey, that's my thread. I didn't think anyone read that. lol. :lol:


That thread is gone :(
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Postby why_spyder » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:11 am

teqvet wrote:
why_spyder wrote:
maxwell1295 wrote:Here are some more good discussions that may be of interest:

http://wiscichlidforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2430


Hey, that's my thread. I didn't think anyone read that. lol. :lol:


That thread is gone :(


Yes, when the WCF got redesigned most of the old threads were deleted.
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Postby yogurtpooh » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:15 pm

hey i just moved my white tops from a 4 feet long mixed tank with a bunch of other mbuna to their own 3 feet long species tank, its been 3 days and the dominant male has not colored up at all. Infact all of the fish have female colors, as before the domaint male was constantly colored up and the subdominant male was also always colored up. Luckily no aggression at all so far. Any tips on this or is this a waiting game? I added a yellow tail acei and it really brought the entire tank out and about but my rock work is very limited.
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Postby cichlidaholic » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:24 pm

They may just need some time to settle in, but odds are they won't be as happy in the 3 ft tank as they were in the 4 ft tank, and if you have multiple males, you may have some problems. You took away a foot of floor space, and I can't imagine housing my two adult males together in less than 4 feet!

I don't think a single acei would be overjoyed in that size tank, either. Acei do much better in larger groups and need at least a 4 ft tank once fully mature.

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Postby yogurtpooh » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:46 pm

actually i have 4 males and 2 females...
im not worried about aggression at all. I'll just have to see during breeding time.
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Postby cichlidaholic » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:58 pm

How big are they, yogurtpooh?

I'd be very concerned over having 4 males and 2 females in a tank that size.

Are they spawning yet?

I have two large wild males, about 5 inches each...I've gotten to the point where I cannot tell them apart, except for their claimed territories in the tank. I have several other males of varying sizes, ranging from 2-4 inches, and probably 10 females. I often have to remove one of the largest males so that they can even begin to spawn, the aggression gets very intense and it can go on for days, with no one getting to spawn with the mature females, unless I remove a mature male. This is in a 55G 4 ft. tank.

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Postby yogurtpooh » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:34 pm

the dominant male is adult size while everyone else is nearing. All fish are at least 3.5 inches. They have spawn for me many times. I always have a sub dominant male colored up and the 2 other males remain in female coloration unless they are squaring off.
In the past I've really only seen aggression during spawning time. I'm not sure if I should go with the bare sand tank or get as much rock as I can in this new tank.
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Postby cichlidaholic » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:30 pm

If you go with rocks, I would just have one pile for the two top males on either side of the tank.

Good luck!

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Postby RAM333 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:08 pm

Hey, how are the Ps. long pelvic Galireya with the white tops since the males of both species have dark vertical bars?

I have some Ps. long pelvic Galireya and was thinking about adding the white tops since they look great and everyone seems to love them. I have long pelvic in a 90 gallon (48*18) but may move them to a 125 (72*18) if I add the white tops.

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Postby cichlidaholic » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:18 pm

I don't have the Ps. zebra Long Pelvics anymore. I gave them away...

I had all adults in with the White tops for quite some time without any problems at all.

The only reason I got rid of the long pelvics was because of the ugly females, and they bred like rabbits!

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Postby yogurtpooh » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:20 pm

would u say the piles should have crevices that the fish can swim through or just any pile would be okay? I was thinking of getting round river rocks since they are smooth, but it would be difficult to create a lot of crevices out of them. I am using lava rock now, but they seem to be scraping their bodies on it when i make sudden movement infront of them.
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Postby why_spyder » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:43 pm

cichlidaholic wrote:I had all adults in with the White tops for quite some time without any problems at all.

The only reason I got rid of the long pelvics was because of the ugly females, and they bred like rabbits!

Kim


I have no problems with mixing these two species either - despite the barring or fins. Everyone I know that has either Met. sp. "red top" Galilea or the Ps. sp. long pelvic Gallireya gets monster spawns out of them. The last two times I stripped my females I got around 50 fry each time - not bad for a 2.5" mbuna. :lol:
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Postby RAM333 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:53 pm

Great to hear the long pelvic and the white tops get along.

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