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To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:55 pm
by judyok
Hi,

Can't find this in my searches so I thought would ask this question here. I have a standard 6' 125gal that I would like to convert to a South American tank. I already have 4 severums in a 75 gallon and I want to give them more room. My water out of the tap has a ph of 7.4, the kh is 4 and the gh is 8. Is this water to hard to breed tank raised south americans. Thanks in advance for your help.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:56 pm
by judyok
Anyone have any thoughts on this.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:54 am
by Iggy Newcastle
In the Chicagoland area there are hobbyists breeding Rams and Angels. The water here is quite hard. Fish like Discus may prove difficult, as eggs may not develop properly. Is that pH stable with a kH of 4?

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:30 am
by judyok
It seems to be, but I haven't tested the water on tanks that I've had for a few years. I'll check that today and see if the ph is lower in those established tanks.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:49 am
by Iggy Newcastle
Cool. I want to say that anything 4 and above is stable, but I'm not 100% on that. You could always fill up a cup and test pH immediately. Let the cup sit out and test again 24 hours later.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:18 pm
by judyok
The ph does indeed drop a bit. I'm using a Nutrafin liquid test and the ph reads around 6.8 to 7.00 from an established tank. Hard to tell exactly with their color chart.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:23 pm
by Iggy Newcastle
That's minimal. Try the tap test above. That will eliminate any doubt.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:48 pm
by judyok
I'll check the tap after 24 hours. I think I've done this before and the ph stayed stable, but I'll do it one more time to be sure.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:21 pm
by jack j
Hi guys, i'm trying to find a natural way of making my water soft ,i have a 3 stage Ro unit but it cost a lot of money to run .Plz help thanks :)

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:58 pm
by Iggy Newcastle
What is your gH, kH and pH?

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:34 pm
by jamntoast3
I've bred a number of different sa cichlids in water that is 7.4 ph, don't know KH, but it should be fine normally. If they are wild I would expect it might be more difficult, but tank raised should be cool.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:23 pm
by judyok
Thanks for your replies everyone. I contacted a seller that specializes in south american and central american cichlids and he gave me a list of south americans that would do well with my water parameters.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:24 am
by AguaManic
jack j wrote:Hi guys, i'm trying to find a natural way of making my water soft ,i have a 3 stage Ro unit but it cost a lot of money to run .Plz help thanks :)

Get those 500 gallon storage containers and fill them with tons of almond leaves/banana leaves/whatever will release tannins and create acidic blackwater for breeding fish that require soft, acidic water. Use that water for water changes.

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:48 am
by jack j
:) ok thanks guys

Re: To breed south americans water parameters

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:51 am
by Iggy Newcastle
jack j wrote::) ok thanks guys


You need to know what your gH, kH and pH is before you try messing with the water.