Discussion regarding only South American Cichlid species. (Oscars, Geophagines, Discus, Apistogramma, Green Terrors, Angels, Severums, Pikes, etc.)
Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:20 am
I see what you mean. I've just looked at the spot being above the middle and not the lateral line.
Oh! but ohhh So it turns out that my 8 Cupidos are 2 Heckelii and 6 Wavrini ...I dont really know what to think about that. I guess the obvious question then is: anyone here with xp with Wavrini?
Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:14 am
Sorry for spaming - I havent figured out how to edit my posts.
I was told they are caught in Peru... that doesnt really fit with the Wavrini does it?
Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:40 am
I'm not 100% certain as I just watched it again but it's hard to tell is the lateral line fully above the dot? or is it going into the center of it. I would almost say it looks like you have half wavrini and half cupido. The ones I have the lateral line goes into the lower portion of the dot if you look at my video you'll see the are definitely different than yours.
I would definitely say it would be difficult for those Heckelii to have been caught with the biotodoma from the same location unless they were actually cupido
Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:30 am
I Got all 8 fish from the same tank at a shop which has a quite good reputation. The guy I talked to did say that he had no experience with the Cupidos so he could not tell me any details on care etc.
Did they get mixed up before or after import or did they actually get caught at the same spot? I dont know. Ill try to get some better fotage and will be very happy to her some more input from you in this forum. And well, maybe ill just have to make an Wavrini thread with the xp I get from my "accidential" batch.
Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:29 am
Hopefully Joemc will come back and check out the video he is way more knowledgeable about cupidos than I am.
Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:27 pm
I've been happy for your input till now so thanks for that and also thanks for your positive comments on tank and Heckelii
I posted a closeup of one of the "Biotodoma X" on face book: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154056626294520&set=p.10154056626294520&type=3&theater
. From this is it quite clear that the dot is between the two lateral lines. Maybe the upper boarder of the dot touches the upper line, but the upper line definitely does not pass through the center of the dot.
Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:58 pm
That first picture is without a doubt a Wavrini and not a Cupido. Looks to me like all the biotodoma in your 26 pictures posted are all Wavrini. They are very nice fish to just get a little bigger than Cupidos from what I've read. I've never had any though so I have no personal experience with them.
Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:22 am
A great surprise yesterday evening.
I've had these for at least two years (see my posts earlier in this thread). I did have 8 originally but sadly lost most of them in a big tank disaster about 3 months ago, while I was away from home. Even the 3 survivors were in the 'dead' bucket at one time but showed weak signs of movement and they have gradually recovered.
This is the first sign of breeding I've seen with them. Mum was still guarding the eggs diligently this morning. She's looking a bit stressed out with her new responsibility.
Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:24 am
This morning both Mum and Dad were by the eggs.
Now, Mum is no longer guarding eggs. She is hovering in a different place nearby, behind a chunk of bogwood so it's impossible to see what's going on. But I can see a spoil heap of substrate so it looks like some digging has occurred. She may have dug a pit to contain her fry? Hopefully.
Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:31 am
Congrats on the spawn good luck with them hatching I've heard they are tough to raise. I have 6 of them still but I'm getting irritated with how skittish they are
Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:32 pm
Mum has dug a pit right in one back corner of the tank, surrounded by bogwood, stone and plant roots. The pit is about 2" deep and she is staying there constantly, fanning her fins. I can only just see the top of her from an awkward angle. I assume there are some fry in there with her but I have yet to see any with my own eyes.
They hatched on Friday and this evening I have started trying to send some food in their general direction (assuming they are there).
When I had a big group of cupids, there were quite bold and interested in goings-on outside the tank. They were always first up to the top when I opened the glass at feeding time.
Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:12 pm
when I open the top for feeding they are all about coming out to see what's going on. I have had them for a year now and the longer I have them it seems the more skittish they get. I don't really understand it really. But now if I just try to point at something in the tank you would think I dropped a bomb in their with the chaos that suddenly ensues. They slam into the glass and into things just trying to hide. I don't know what to do to stop it at this point. They have 10 emperor tetras and 7 rio flame tetras as dithers.
Hopefully if a couple pair off things will become more calm. I'm becoming impatient though
Glad you're having luck with yours let us know how it goes
Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:20 am
Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:50 am
Very nice congrats I'm sure it was fun watching them posture around the tank before hand and now watching them protect
Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:58 am
Yes, it's always great to watch Cichlid parents. Both of them are looking after the fry, and I've tried to feed microworms and BBS so far. There's a lot of hair algae and some leaf litter in the tank, so hopefully there should be some microscopic life in there as well. But that's a lot of little mouths to feed!
I'll try to get some more pics tonight.
When you said yours were skittish, I've never seen that with mine. They're always quite laid back. My tank has quite a lot of decor (huge bogwood branches, slate structures, floating plants etc) so there are plenty of places for them to hide. They do like to rest against hard decor or in niches.
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