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Re: White lips

Postby shiftyfox » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:57 am

Was the lone dem you had Male or female..?
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Re: White lips

Postby DJRansome » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:36 am

Shiftyfox, there was nothing wrong with the labs and Jalo Reefs. 1m:4f of each should work fine. All male tanks are also more challenging, but you might have success with the labs and 3 small, timid male peacocks that look nothing alike. Maleri, cobue and rubescens. Buy adult, sexed males.

With a selection of male peacocks allow a year or two to get a workable mix.
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Re: White lips

Postby shiftyfox » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:21 am

So the 5 labs with
x1 regal blue male peacock
x1 sunshine male peacock
x1 ruby red male peacock

Would I have to get rid of the female dem..?
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Re: White lips

Postby DJRansome » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:56 pm

Yes to all. Remember all male might or might not work. Plan on adjustments over the first 2 years.
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Re: White lips

Postby shiftyfox » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:09 am

I think you were right guys, the female jalo looks better this week, think it must have been aggression.
So I currently have 1M 3F - how many more females should I add..?
Or instead could I add some rusties and add 4 to get total number to 14 fish..?
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Re: White lips

Postby DJRansome » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:05 am

This is a 35" tank, you don't want 14 fish. That would be for a 48" tank.

For the 35" tank safest is to go one single species, so trade in the Jalo Reefs for yellow labs.

If you want to keep the 2 species for now the problem is you want to add 3 fish at least whenever you add fish to an established tank, and you don't really have room for 3 more fish.

I would trade in the demasoni and add three Jalo Reef females, since they are the ones having aggression problems at this time.
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Re: White lips

Postby shiftyfox » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:23 pm

Over the past 10 day’s or so I have had 3 fish that have died, demasoni and 2 jalo females.
The demasoni hadn’t been eating for several days and was spending a lot of time on the bottom of the tank.
One of the female jalos gave birth and the day after died. I believe the jalo Male killed both of them.
I realise I may have had the wrong ratio 1m 3f

So currently I have 1m 3f labs and 1m 1f jalo reef.
6 fish total and 1fry hiding in the rocks.

If I added 3 more jalo female would that solve the issue or would he continue to kill them..?

Or as an experiment take the 2 jalo out and try 2 or 3 peacock males with the 4 labs..?
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Re: White lips

Postby DJRansome » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:34 pm

Right now you have to wait 3 weeks to ensure whatever was killing your fish is gone or cured. Remove the male jalo during this period and do not add fish to this tank.

If additional fish die then you may need to treat with a medication (after diagnosing the illness).
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Re: White lips

Postby shiftyfox » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:39 pm

Almost 3 weeks have elapsed and no more fish deaths, what are my options

Current stock
Yellow Labs 1M 3F
Jalo Reed 1M 1F (Jalo Female is holding)

Do I stick to 6 Fish and risk the male jalo eventually killing her..?
Add 3 more larger Jalo female..?
Add another species?
Remove both Jalo's and add a different species..?
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Re: White lips

Postby Old Newbie » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:36 pm

shiftyfox wrote:Almost 3 weeks have elapsed and no more fish deaths, what are my options

Current stock
Yellow Labs 1M 3F
Jalo Reed 1M 1F (Jalo Female is holding)

Do I stick to 6 Fish and risk the male jalo eventually killing her..?
Add 3 more larger Jalo female..?
Add another species?
Remove both Jalo's and add a different species..?


In a tank that size I would remove/re-home both Jalo, maybe add 1 or 2 more female Labs and keep it as a species tank. It's really too small to do much else with.
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Re: White lips

Postby shiftyfox » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:55 pm

I’ve had just the one species in there at the start and all they do is hide, until feed time.
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