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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:31 am

GlennLever wrote:
GlennLever wrote:So...

Getting close to fish and went to check inventory and two of the fishes are not listed any more.

Chindongo saulosi Taiwanee Reef
1.5''+ 9.00 ea

and

Labidochromis caeruleus Nkhata Bay ''White Lab''
1.5''+ 9.00 ea


I have to believe the person I wanted to buy from was closed on Monday as I never got a call back

Tank is now cycled and no fish to put in it.

Do I keep adding ammonia until I get some fish?


OK he is out of the two fishes until the end of next week, maybe.

Two thoughts

Buy what he has, supplement later, remember no quarantine tank as yet, and this is not the way I would like to go.

Supplement the missing species with other fish (what I think I would like to do)

Suggestions???

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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:59 am

I would wait. You will have these fish for 8 years...what is one week to get what you want?
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:13 pm

DJRansome wrote:I would wait. You will have these fish for 8 years...what is one week to get what you want?


Nope, I cannot do that.

Fish are ordered 6 of each

Iodotropheus sprengerae ''Rusty''

Synodontis lucipinnis ''Dwarf Petricola''

Pseudotropheus sp. ''Acei'' Luwala Reef ''Yellow Tail Acei''

Labidochromis caeruleus Lion's Cove ''Yellow Lab''

Moving to the fish category, feel free to follow this adventure there under the same name Glenn's Tank Thread. (Lake Malawi Species)
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:45 pm

GlennLever wrote:
DJRansome wrote:I would wait. You will have these fish for 8 years...what is one week to get what you want?


Nope, I cannot do that.

Fish are ordered 6 of each

Iodotropheus sprengerae ''Rusty''

Synodontis lucipinnis ''Dwarf Petricola''

Pseudotropheus sp. ''Acei'' Luwala Reef ''Yellow Tail Acei''

Labidochromis caeruleus Lion's Cove ''Yellow Lab''

Moving to the fish category, feel free to follow this adventure there under the same name Glenn's Tank Thread. (Lake Malawi Species)


I hope your not mad at me, I am an impulse male after all, I have looked very carefully at the fish and I like the mix?

I still have questions.

Like is this the correct procedure?

open package slowly to avoid going from black darkness to day light.
acclimate unopened bags in the tank 30 minutes
remove bags, hold top, and cut the top of the bag off (avoid ammonia spike in bag)
dump into a fine mess net over a bucket and move the fish to the tank.

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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby Deeda » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:07 pm

Glenn, I won't comment on the stock list as I have no experience with them.

I've not bought online but at local fish club auctions and I do box the fish for transport to and from auctions. As far as unpacking the fish, I've never worried about opening the box slowly to get them accustomed to the light but the rest of the process is similar to what I do. An alternative to dumping the fish into a net over a bucket, you can also use a small bucket or bowl, dump the fish and the bag water in and then net them out to the tank. I've had difficulty using the net with bucket and dumping fish from the bag by myself.

I do suggest taking pics of the box as it arrived, when you initially open it and of the bagged fish in case there is an issue with either packaging or injured or dead fish. A time stamped pic may be helpful if there are problems with either the shipper or vendor in case you need to file a complaint.

Just for giggles, after you've unbagged the fish and their in their new tank, test their shipping water for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH to see the results.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:29 pm

Deeda wrote:Glenn, I won't comment on the stock list as I have no experience with them.

I've not bought online but at local fish club auctions and I do box the fish for transport to and from auctions. As far as unpacking the fish, I've never worried about opening the box slowly to get them accustomed to the light but the rest of the process is similar to what I do. An alternative to dumping the fish into a net over a bucket, you can also use a small bucket or bowl, dump the fish and the bag water in and then net them out to the tank. I've had difficulty using the net with bucket and dumping fish from the bag by myself.

I do suggest taking pics of the box as it arrived, when you initially open it and of the bagged fish in case there is an issue with either packaging or injured or dead fish. A time stamped pic may be helpful if there are problems with either the shipper or vendor in case you need to file a complaint.

Just for giggles, after you've unbagged the fish and their in their new tank, test their shipping water for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH to see the results.


I intend to do a video of the arrival and unboxing. I know it has been done to death, but it will create a record. I will post it here when I do it.

You have given me an idea. What I will do is find a bowl just large enough to hold the water from a bag with a net draped over it, pour the fish into the bowl and then lift the net up????

I agree to do the testing, it will be interesting. Any meds. in the water might through the values off though.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby DJRansome » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:02 am

I do dump the bag into a net over a bucket and flip them into the tank. I use a large net that sits over the mouth of the bucket by itself.

No concerns about the species but I do not think you have enough fish. Almost, and they are among the most peaceful, but not quite.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby shiftyfox » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:38 am

Acclimation - is it really necessary..?
I just put them straight in, has anyone actually lost a fish or totally stressed them leading to an illness..?
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:53 am

DJRansome wrote:I do dump the bag into a net over a bucket and flip them into the tank. I use a large net that sits over the mouth of the bucket by itself.

No concerns about the species but I do not think you have enough fish. Almost, and they are among the most peaceful, but not quite.


What would you add, I am waiting on the vendor to send me an invoice

shiftyfox wrote:Acclimation - is it really necessary..?
I just put them straight in, has anyone actually lost a fish or totally stressed them leading to an illness..?


After all this time I think I CAN wait 30 minutes to let them free, if nothing else it is goo insurance.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby shiftyfox » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:09 am

Some dark blue would look good with the mix you have or some stripes.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby Deeda » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:40 am

There's actually a few schools of thought on acclimating fish:
1) float the unopened bag in the tank until temperatures are close (hard to determine if you can't check the bagged temp)
2) float the unopened bag in the tank until temperatures match and then add some tank water to bag to get them used to your water
3) drip acclimate over a couple hours from tank to bag but that means opening the bag and you also don't know if there is ammonia in the bag from the fish transport process
4) open bag immediately, dump fish into a net over a container and plop the fish in the tank

I usually use method #4 unless I know that the fish bag water is significantly colder or warmer than the tank they are going into then I use method #1.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:03 am

The fish are ordered (paid for).

Expected delivery is Thursday.

I will put unopened bags in the tank for 30 minutes, hold the top of the bag tightly and cut the top off, dump fish into net over buck and right into the tank.

If the thoughts are I will need more fish (48 inch long tank) Give me some suggestions and I will place another order (shipping will kill me).

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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby shiftyfox » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:15 am

Dull females but males look stunning.
I know you don’t mainganos shape but colour would look great with the mix you have.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby shiftyfox » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:17 am

Just make sure none of the water in the bags goes in to your tank, sure fire way of getting problems if there are any nasties in the vendors water.
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Re: Glenn's Tank Thread

Postby GlennLever » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:28 am

shiftyfox wrote:Dull females but males look stunning.
I know you don’t mainganos shape but colour would look great with the mix you have.


I thought they were aggressive?

shiftyfox wrote:Just make sure none of the water in the bags goes in to your tank, sure fire way of getting problems if there are any nasties in the vendors water.


Will do.
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