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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby Mudkicker1 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:31 am

DJRansome wrote:Here is my regimen. Note the author was also treating a herbivore (or at least not a carnivore like haps and peacocks).
https://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/vie ... 40#p272716
Is there any science behind his regimen or did he basically wing it?

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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:22 am

I think he followed the directions, but doubled the meds. Worked for him, worked for me and has worked for others.
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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby Mudkicker1 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:28 am

DJRansome wrote:I think he followed the directions, but doubled the meds. Worked for him, worked for me and has worked for others.
DJ do you double the dosage stated in those directions?

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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:46 am

No I followed the directions in the post exactly. If I was treating the larger tank I increased the dosage accordingly.

It would be nice if someone would research the organism(s) that cause bloat and straighten it out for us.

I always thought for the demasoni it was the extra long herbivore gut which would not be the case for carnivores.
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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby Mudkicker1 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:53 am

DJRansome wrote:No I followed the directions in the post exactly. If I was treating the larger tank I increased the dosage accordingly.

It would be nice if someone would research the organism(s) that cause bloat and straighten it out for us.

I always thought for the demasoni it was the extra long herbivore gut which would not be the case for carnivores.
Yes that would be nice. I can say for sure that it's not due to diet in my experience. I feed my mbuna tank cheap tetra flakes and NEVER got bloat. I feed my haps and peacocks with NLS and now Northfin and I still get bloat sometimes. My most recent outbreak was due to me not quarantining new fish for a long enough time.

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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:17 pm

I think it has pretty much accepted now that it is NEVER diet, unless you are talking 100% bloodworms. I think the foods they make now are good quality.

For me it is always aggression. I have not had bloat in many years, knock on wood.
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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby shiftyfox » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:05 am

Metroplex just arrived from the US.
I assume before dosing I should remove the Purigen bag from the canister?
Water change was done 2 days ago but should I perform another before I start..?
About 3 fish are not eating at present

Instructions say one level scoop for every 40 litres so I assume I can add 5 to my 200 litre..
Straight into the water or dissolve it in tank water first..?
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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby ken31cay » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:27 am

The times I've used Metroplex for africans I've had to double the recommended dose to 2 scoops per 40 liters as the recommended treatment had little or no effect until I did this.
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Re: Sunken Belly

Postby shiftyfox » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:34 pm

So drop 10 scoops straight in, no dissolving beforehand..?

Also is it worth mixing into some pellets first and feed before treating the water..?
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