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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:47 pm
by naturlvr
Nitrates are 10 in both tanks.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:53 pm
by DJRansome
You could try metronidazole. No feces yet right?

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:46 pm
by naturlvr
DJRansome wrote:You could try metronidazole. No feces yet right?


Right..no eating, no feces. He turned darker when I put him in the 10 gallon...probably stress. What do you think of using clout? I put Metro in the tank for now.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:59 pm
by DJRansome
IME Metronidazole is more effective than clout.

You could double the dose of metronidazole.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:34 pm
by naturlvr
ok i will

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:56 am
by naturlvr
He is still alive today. In the 75 gallon tank the rainbows are still hanging in there and looking better but the pearl occelatus are all dead.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:01 am
by naturlvr
What do you think of Kanaplex? Amazon rates it better than Metro plex..it soaks into the fish's skin and gills without ingesting. Would like to know your opinion.

And here is a combination of the two plus garlic all in one treatment:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CN3KT89/re ... ljaz10cnVl

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:22 am
by DJRansome
Never used either of those. I use straight metronidazole purchased from a fish room supply store for a lot less than pet stores. 100 grams for $15 or 500 grams for $39.00. The fish breathe in the metronidazole through their gills anyway.

Kanaplex does not have metronidazole. I would recommend it for columnaris but not bloat.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:07 am
by naturlvr
DJRansome wrote:Never used either of those. I use straight metronidazole purchased from a fish room supply store for a lot less than pet stores. 100 grams for $15 or 500 grams for $39.00. The fish breathe in the metronidazole through their gills anyway.

Kanaplex does not have metronidazole. I would recommend it for columnaris but not bloat.


OK then I will get the Metroplex since I am about out of it. You mean 10 Grams for $15...yes?

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:12 am
by DJRansome
Metronidazole
METRO-100G
100 gms Powder
$15.00

Metronidazole
METRO-500G
500 gms powder
$39.95

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:51 pm
by naturlvr
DJRansome wrote:Metronidazole
METRO-100G
100 gms Powder
$15.00

Metronidazole
METRO-500G
500 gms powder
$39.95



Thats a lot cheaper than Amazon...its 10 grams for $15!

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:08 pm
by naturlvr
To catch you up on the 240 gal tank and the 75 gallon tank:

The 240 gallon tank : Nitrate level 20
the 75 gallon tank: Nitrate level 20 the six rainbow that were still alive when I started the salt cure for ich are still alive and look free of ICH..the poor pleco doesn't look happy but who can really tell? So if I read correctly, three days after no ICH seen...I can discontinue the salt and heat treatment right?

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:52 pm
by DJRansome
I thought it was 3 weeks.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:25 pm
by naturlvr
DJRansome wrote:I thought it was 3 weeks.

this is a quote from the forum library:
How long? The salt bath should be maintained for approximately 10 days, or for at least 3 days after any visible signs of Ich can be detected. Do not discontinue treatment when the spots go away. If you use a higher dosage of salt, watch the duration more closely. One article (on guppies) specifically stated not to leave the fish in salt longer than ten days, but their dosage recommendation was on the high end at 5 tablespoons per 5 gallons.

Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:10 pm
by naturlvr
To update on the Williamsi Blue Lips: He is still in the hospital tank. I have tried feeding him with food soaked in garlic but he is not interested in eating. He hangs out behind the bubbler all the time. This is at least a month of no eating. I ran out of Metro today and my order from two days ago has not been shipped ...so today I called <vendor name removed> which is so much cheaper ( I was able to overnite it for tomorrow morning ). At this point he has yet to respond to metro and I cannot tell of anything else going on with him, now that he has been removed from the stress of being bullied. But of course being in the "hospital" is stress too. Any ideas? I will keep giving him Metro though he will miss a dose today, until he dies or gets well.