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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby DJRansome » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:23 pm

Rainbows are not cichlids. IDK how to treat them or if they get bloat. I thought they had spots? Sounds like at least the 2 are too far gone. Not sure how rainbows would do with occies in any case.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:37 pm

One of the oldest and largest breeders of Cichlids say the rainbow red lazers go perfect with shell dweller cichlids because they are gentle and stay at the top of the tank in schools while the shellies are at the bottom. I find this to be true. If you look them up you can see their water parameters. They are a fairly newly discovered fish,,,not from Africa but live well with them.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:40 pm

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2015/07 ... described/
This is the general class of Rainbows but the red lazer is very new..the top of the male's head gets a bright red when he is the dominant one..interesting fish and go well with the cichlids.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:45 pm

The rainbows had regular poop before today.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby DJRansome » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:13 am

Do they have ich spots?

Maybe the breeder can advise you on diagnosing and treating their illness?
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:05 am

Yes they do have white spots and no fins... and the breeder said to treat the whole tank...did not say with what but I assume he means treat for ICH
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby DJRansome » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:09 am

The symptoms are ich so I would treat for ich

Did he say why the fins are missing?
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:28 am

DJRansome wrote:Do they have ich spots?

Maybe the breeder can advise you on diagnosing and treating their illness?


Yes they have white spots like ICH all over and no fins. The breeder said to treat the whole tank.
I am getting ready to run the parameters again this morning.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:53 am

Water parameters this morning for Nitrates

240 gallon tank: 80
75 Gallon tank : 20

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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby DJRansome » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:54 pm

Keep doing water changes. Did the rainbow expert say why they have no fins? Usually we see the spots on the fins, so IDK if that means anything.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:39 pm

No I think they rotted..fin rot? they did have find..I am talking about the top fin..the others are still there. And now 4 ocellatus have died since I added the salt.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:49 pm

naturlvr wrote:No I think they rotted..fin rot? they did have the back fin..I am talking about the top fin..the others are still there. And now 4 ocellatus have died since I added the salt.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:50 pm

Maybe I should have given them ER? (erythromycin). Now two more Rainbow are breaking away from their group..bad sign.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby DJRansome » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:31 pm

I would check with the rainbow expert.

I have never heard of shellies dying due to ich treatment so I would not connect those 2 facts.
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Re: I feel pretty upset and lacking..

Postby naturlvr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:47 pm

DJRansome wrote:I would check with the rainbow expert.

I have never heard of shellies dying due to ich treatment so I would not connect those 2 facts.


I cannot figure out why the shellies are dying..so far the rainbows are holding on with the ich treatment. They look a little better.
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