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Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby ldregz » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:51 pm

I recently got the go ahead from my wife to start a new Tang community! Right now I'm thinking the tank will be a 125 gallon (72" Long x 18" Deep x 21" Tall)

I'm looking for input on stocking and any advice about the species and their compatibility.

Must haves:
- Alto. Comps either Gold Heads or Red Fins (hoping to have a full grown F0 group with 1 male and 1-3 females)
- Lamp. Multi colony (I'll start off with 6-8 fish and let them multiply at their own rate and fill the 80+ shells I have for the tank)

Others I'm interested in:
- Cyprichromis (I have never had these before but they seem common in communities to fill the upper portion of the tank)
- Lamp. Julies (I know there a lot of variants here, but maybe a pair/trio would work?)
- Alto. Calvus Black (would a group of F0s work along with the Comps?)
- Ophthalmotilapia boops (I've read these can be mean and not work well with shellies)
- Alto. fasciatus (another favorite of mine from the past, I know they can be fairly mellow and work well as a pair/trio)
- Lamprologus Brevis (another shellie, is the tank big enough to hold two species?)
- Anything I'm missing????

I think 4-6 species would be idea for a tank this size. I would love to hear your input to help fill my tank!
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:45 pm

I had a successful 72" Tang tank for a long time centered around the calvus.

I had shellies and cyps and julidochromis.

I also had leleupi even though I was advised against it. True to the predictions they killed the shellies so I had to remove them.

I would not mix the Altolamprologus.

Boops need the entire 72" bottom to themselves.

I would do one shellie species/tank. I have heard you can do 2 in a 72" tank if you first established the brevis on a high shelf and later introduce another species on the bottom. My brevis were all over the tank including swimming with the cyps, so FWIW.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby ldregz » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:54 pm

So based on your experience you’d suggest I go with something like this?

-Altos (one species)
-Multis
-Cyprichromis
-Julis

Anything else? What quantities do you recommend of each species?
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby DJRansome » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:41 am

20 cyps
6 multies
6 each of the altos and julis with the expectation that they will form one pair and reject the others.

If you want more fish you can try for a colony of altos, but you would want to stock more...maybe 12 and hope for 3 males and the rest females.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby sir_keith » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:22 am

DJRansome wrote: ...Boops need the entire 72" bottom to themselves...


Amen to that!
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby ldregz » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:15 pm

UPDATE - I am going to bite the bullet and step up to a 180 gallon tank (72" x 24" x 24"). I feel the 6" of extra depth is worth the price.

I would assume the stocking stays relatively the same though?

Does anyone have suggestions on julidochromis or cyprichromis species?
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby DJRansome » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:21 pm

I like the Cyprichromis leptosoma Mpimbwe ''Fluorescent'' and the Julidochromis sp. ''Ornatus Kombe'' Kombe. They changed the name since I kept Julidochromis.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby sir_keith » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:55 pm

ldregz wrote:UPDATE - I am going to bite the bullet and step up to a 180 gallon tank (72" x 24" x 24"). I feel the 6" of extra depth is worth the price.

I would assume the stocking stays relatively the same though?

Does anyone have suggestions on julidochromis or cyprichromis species?


Some Cyp/Paracyp combinations, as well as certain Julies, do not mix well because they have such similar requirements that they compete with each other. You will need to decide on which fishes interest you, and then research their compatibility.

The stocking of a 125 vs. a 180 would be similar. I've had both, and unless you just like the aesthetics of the taller tank, I'd stick with the 125. 24" deep tanks are a PITA because you can't reach the bottom. Good luck. :fish:
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:36 pm

Agree I like the 125G better...even for aesthetics.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby ldregz » Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:02 pm

sir_keith wrote:Some Cyp/Paracyp combinations, as well as certain Julies, do not mix well because they have such similar requirements that they compete with each other. You will need to decide on which fishes interest you, and then research their compatibility.

The stocking of a 125 vs. a 180 would be similar. I've had both, and unless you just like the aesthetics of the taller tank, I'd stick with the 125. 24" deep tanks are a PITA because you can't reach the bottom. Good luck. :fish:


Any recommendations as to what Cyp/Paracyp and Julies pair well together from your experiences?
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby sir_keith » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:59 pm

ldregz wrote:
Any recommendations as to what Cyp/Paracyp and Julies pair well together from your experiences?


Sorry, you misunderstood my post. There are some Cyps that don't pair well with other Cyps/Paracyps; likewise, there are some Julies that don't do well with other specific Julies. Cyps and Julies occupy different parts of the tank, and basically ignore each other, so compatibility is not a problem.

I particularly like Paracyprichromis nigripinnis 'Blue Neon,' but they can be hard to find, and it's my impression that they are not at their best when kept with Cyprichromis, which seem to make them nervous. As a rule of thumb for the Julies, avoid keeping species that look very similar (why would you want to?), or that vary widely in size. Good luck.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby ldregz » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:22 pm

I gotcha! I did misread it. Thanks for the input!

Today I made a good step in the right direction when my shipment of shells arrived. 84 shells should be enough to give me a good sized shell bed or two for the Multis.

And thanks for all the recommendations, I’m staying put with the 125 gallon. Hopefully picking it up this week!

Next step after that will be the stand/canopy build.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby DJRansome » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:07 am

Put all the shells in one pile for the multifasciatus.
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Re: Stocking a 125 gallon Tang community

Postby sir_keith » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:10 am

ldregz wrote: ... And thanks for all the recommendations, I’m staying put with the 125 gallon. Hopefully picking it up this week! ...


Cool; I think you'll be very happy with the 125. I've had lots of tanks, bigger and smaller, but the 125 is still one of my favourites. To my eye, it's proportions are just perfect, and while it's big enough to do all sorts of interesting things, it's not unwieldy. I have a number of these in which I house mixed Opthalmotilapia and Xenotilapia colonies; here is one of them. Have fun! :thumb:

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