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anyone ever seen one of these filters?

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#1 ·
so i went an bought some stuff of a guy and he asked me if i could use an extra filter so i said sure why not it free right well he gives me this prehistoric looking filter i have never seen nor heard of, it looks pretty crazy and has 3 intake tubes? he said it flows about 900gph> just wondering what you guys thought probably never gonna use it but, just wondered what i had
 
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It is a Supreme Aqua King made by Danner. They made 3 or 4 different models. The one you have is the most powerful. Years ago I had their smallest one and the second most powerful one they made. Actually, I kind of liked them. Your model would have come with two large intake tubes (not round, but a rectangle with rounded ends) and they provided a plug so you could get water into them to start the siphon.
 
#4 ·
Back again. On second thought I believe your filter is called the Super King. You can still buy filter pads for these filters. I believe they measure 4 by 12 inches. My large one was the Aqua King. One nice thing about these filters was that if babies got sucked up into them they could live there until you took them out. I wouldn't mind having one again.
 
#5 ·
ya u dont know much about them i even tried google search and it didnt turn up much,so thanks for the info.... so is this thing worth holding on to, or trying to sell, or just throw away lol? Ill probably never use it I have enough filters
 
#6 ·
What you have is the early model of todays model HOB. Before they were "improved" by using lightweight cheap plastic for motors, etc. Before filters were meant to be thrown away every few years. Yes, they look like prehistoric things but that is because they last forever. :D I recommend keeping it for when your new improved plastic model quits. :roll:
 
#7 ·
I agree with PfunMo. I would hang onto it. The impeller on the largest two models was huge compared to the impellers now. Someone on EBay was looking for a motor like yours. I wish I had never sold my two. I had them for several years. The small one I had was called the Aqua Master if my memory is still somewhat intact. Also, I think the largest two models required a little oil for the motors now and then, but I'm not sure.
 
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That is a place where even a dinosaur needs help. :D When you do the oil bit, use very little. You do not want to get heavy with it and get oil in the tank. NO OIL in the tank. :-? Not even off your hands after oiling the filter. Wash and dry and think it over before putting hands back in the tank. :wink:
 
#17 ·
I just resurrected two of the Aquamasters from an old box of 17 year old equipment I've been storing since my college days. They are alive and still kicking after all of those years. They do need to be oiled, but I've lost the instruction manuals and am unsure where the oil needs to be applied... any help would be appreciated, thanks.
 
#19 ·
I recommend keeping it for when your new improved plastic model quits. :roll:[/quote]

Although plastic impeller wells don't last as long in all conditions, if you use a prefilter and don't get sand in it, you should get 10 years guaranteed out of an aquaclear motor if not 15. even then you could replace the impeller and or well for about twenty dollars.

Overall what you get for $20USD in a HOB is pretty good these days.
 
#20 ·
that was one of the best filters ever made but it had one thing that made it fade away back in the early 90's. most of the filters made today have the motor pumping the water from the tank to the filter but this one had the motor pumping the water from the filter to the tank so to set it up you had to use airline tubing to suck the air out of the intake tubes and that was too much trouble for most people because with the ones made now you just add water to the filter box and the motor gets that air pocket out for you. the thing that makes this filter better is the fact that the water going into the tank could be set to go where you want it and not just fall into the tank where you put the filter box. back then I used those with the water being pumped into the tube of an undergravel filter for saltwater tanks. if you'd like to sell it Email me and I'll buy it from you because these days I don't have any of those and I miss them.
 
#22 ·
A.Angel G said:
to set it up you had to use airline tubing to suck the air out of the intake tubes
Never heard of that.
Used this type of filter for over 20 years. You submerse the J-siphon in the water and put a plug on the end of the siphon and pull the plug after it's in the filter box.
Owned 3 Supreme super kings and one Aqualogy 600. My first was actually an Aqualogy 300, but that one didn't last that long, maybe 3-4 years as the plastic motor-propeller casing busted.
Like the aquology 300, the smaller Aquamaster only has 2 J-siphons so it's not as much of a PITA to set up. And these will run fine with only 2 J-siphons.
The OP's Supreme Supreme king is missing a J-siphon so of course it will suck air big time. They came with 4 J-siphons, but I purchased an extra and ran all of mine with 5.....because at times they would still suck air with only 4. A cichlid would often hit into them and they would dislodge, making lot's of noise after they start sucking air.
These filters last as long as they are oiled at least once a year. But the J-siphons do not flow that well requiring many of them. They are such a PITA to set up. Would never go back to this type of filter as setting up that many J-siphons is such a PITA. Two supreme super kings on just my 180 gal. alone meant setting 10 j-siphons every time you clean them. And they really have small area for filtration material as if you stuff too much floss it will slow or stop the J-siphons, and it will suck air. They actually NEED to be cleaned every week!
 
#23 ·
Forum;

...good filter, which works great and can be simply unhooked from the back of tank and taken completely to sink for all maintenance work...I ran one of these for years without any major issues...it worked very well on my (understocked) 55G. If siphon on intake tube(s) is lost, it must be manually reestablished...it will not self-prime as tube(s) lift tank water into enclosure and filter media...this has the advantage that any big abrasive particles that come in are caught by media and don't make it to impeller to hurt it. I've upgraded to E400 (with Reynolds mod) because of the bio-wheel advantages, but if I didn't need the bio-wheels, I would put it back into service in a minute. Periodic lube of motor bushing is required...no big deal there... Cheers
 
#24 ·
06ram said:
he said it flows about 900gph>
I know this is an old thread, but just to clarify, this filter, Supreme Super King, was rated at 600 gph ( Aquology 600, as well). The smaller model, Supeme Aquamaster was rated at 300 gph (just like the Aquology 300). One of the few good things about this type of filter, is they do move a lot of water.
Shortly after I first got the aqualogy 300 ('77-78), I did a test to see how much it pumped. I placed it on the front of the tank and flipped the motor around so it pumped into a 5 gallon pale and timed it with a stop watch. With brand knew filter floss it pumped around 250 gph. I was satisfied it pumped close to it's rated gph. All filters are rated with out media. When i got the aqualogy 600 ('79) I did the same test and got a flow rate around 550 gph. I got my 3 Supreme Super Kings in the early '80's, and did not do this test on them, but i am certain they would pump virtually the same as an Aquology 600.
The other great attribute of this pump is it's longevity. My Supreme Super kings were run for 17-18 years and still worked like knew (other then giving shocks if you touched the motor housing while it was plugged in :lol: ). The aquology 600 was used off and on over this span, but in it's later life needed coaxing to get going by pouring water into the box to get it's initial start. I hucked them out around 1999-2000. Good riddance. Running all 4 meant setting 20 J-siphons. Did i mention already that J-siphons are a supreme PITA? :lol:
The other fualt of the filter is a lack of filtration media. A one gallon 4" x 12" box in which you can only put a couple inches thick of filter floss. If you try to stuff too much filter floss you'll slow or even dislodge the J-siphons and the filter will make a racket sucking air. And the larger models (Supreme superking and aquology 600) have the same size box as the smaller models, even though they pump at least twice the amount.
 
#25 ·
The Superking and Aquaking shared the same box. The Aquamaster PME used a smaller box.

We used to use those boxes as fish holders for bagging fish at TFP. The Aquamaster PME box was the perfect size and most preferred. But it was also brittle. A couple of drops and they were toast.
 
#26 ·
I had this filter back in the day. I'll take you back even further. Did anyone have the Metaframe Dynaflow filter? I can still recall replacing the small plastic ball bearing on a regular basis.
 
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