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Shell Dwellers

Postby inspector javert » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:11 pm

I am starting over again with my 10 gallon tank and I am considering using shell dwelling chiclids and making it a species tank.

It says on aquarium wiki that the shell dweller requires shell and sand. Is it possible to use gravel substrate? Further where can I get shells for the ciclids to use? Will they be available at the pet store?

Thanks in advance for all your help.
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Postby prov356 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:25 pm

Is it possible to use gravel substrate?


Anything's possible, but not preferable to them at all. If you go with something like multi's (which is probably a good idea for a 10), you can probably just do a shell bed with little or no substrate at all.

Further where can I get shells for the ciclids to use? Will they be available at the pet store?


Not likely. Google 'cichlid breeding shells' and you'll find a good source. I use escargot from an online food store like Marky's.
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Postby frank1rizzo » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:18 pm

petco had some for hermit crabs that were good.
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Postby Glaneon » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:19 pm

We ordered a ton of whale-eyes for pretty cheap (80 for $13).

Honestly, I think they wouldn't like the gravel at all - our Occie's will get in front of a shell and flutter, skitting sand into the shell, just how they like it.
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Postby inspector javert » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:52 pm

Thanks for the tips I guess I'll stick with my original plan

Which is either

5 or 10 x Ember Tetra (Hyphessobrycon amandae)
5 x Dwarf Rasbora (Boraras maculatus)
3 x Amano Shrimp (Cardina multidentata)
5 x Red Cherry Shrimp (Neocaridina heteropoda)

OR

2 x Honey Gourami (Trichogaster chuna)
5 x Dwarf Rasbora (Boraras maculatus)
1 x Apple Snail (Pomacea bridgesii)
5 x Red Cherry Shrimp (Neocaridina heteropoda)

How does that sound

On another topic whats the minimum tank size if I want to keep yellow labs?
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Postby Glaneon » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:26 pm

Got something against sand? :(

A 10 gallon Multi tank would be really cute.
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Postby inspector javert » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:35 pm

Well where would I find sand for aquariums? I might try and start a new 10 gallon tank sometime.
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Postby Glaneon » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:37 pm

Pool filter sand, $7-8 for 25lbs (50?)lbs. That's a LOT more sand than you need.

The challenge with a 10 gallon and sand is making sure you don't get sand in your filter. You can use a sponge over the intake, just cut a hold out of a sponge.
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Postby inspector javert » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:50 pm

Ah cool though I have a monster filter for my tank (30 gallons) if and when I get my own place I'm thinking of making a Cichlid tank about how big should I make a tank for yellow labs and where could I find an article on good starter cichlids.
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Postby AZcichlidfreak » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:00 am

inspector javert wrote:Well where would I find sand for aquariums? I might try and start a new 10 gallon tank sometime.

For just a 10 gallon tank you can get some of the marine sand from the chain stores for pretty cheap $5-$10. Just don't get to fine of sand or it very well may end up in your filter as mentioned prior.
inspector javert wrote:Ah cool though I have a monster filter for my tank (30 gallons) if and when I get my own place I'm thinking of making a Cichlid tank about how big should I make a tank for yellow labs and where could I find an article on good starter cichlids

For a species only yellow lab tank I would recommend a 55 gallon. Then if you decide you will atleast have the space to add different species. You can check out the cookie cutter part of the library. :thumb:
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