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Three cichlids ???

Postby JKnPA » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:42 am

These two.............
Could the yellow one be Pseudotropheous saulosi ?
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And this guy....... dominate fish in the tank ( 2 photos)
Same fish......... dominate fish in tank
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Postby ndblaikie » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:40 pm

NONE of the photos work...

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55G - 5 Aulonocara baenschi (1m 4f)

75G - Yellow Labs, Acei, Rusty, Cynotilapia Afra(Mara Rocks), 3 BN Plecos.

180G - All male Hap/Peacock (5 unsexed juvenile Placidochromis Milomo).
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Postby ndblaikie » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:59 pm

#1, - Looks like Pseudotropheus saulosi and Pseudotropheus sp. "Acei"
#2 - not sure
#3,4 - Pseudotropheus demasoni
55G - 5 Aulonocara baenschi (1m 4f)

75G - Yellow Labs, Acei, Rusty, Cynotilapia Afra(Mara Rocks), 3 BN Plecos.

180G - All male Hap/Peacock (5 unsexed juvenile Placidochromis Milomo).
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Postby brinkles » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:44 pm

#2 looks like part lab. perlmutt, but too many bars.
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Postby JKnPA » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:10 pm

ndblaikie wrote:#1, - Looks like Pseudotropheus saulosi and Pseudotropheus sp. "Acei"
#2 - not sure
#3,4 - Pseudotropheus demasoni

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#1 Yes.... I think the yellow one ( no other markings) may be P. saulosi.
#3/4 ...... How do you differentiate between P. demasoni & P. elongatus
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Postby JKnPA » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:12 pm

brinkles wrote:#2 looks like part lab. perlmutt, but too many bars.

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Could #2 be a female P. acei ???
I see yellow in the tail and dorsal fins!
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Postby Fogelhund » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:42 pm

#1 - Yellow fish is a Metriaclima estherea.

Are you saying #2, 3 and 4 are the same fish?

#3, 4 are Pseudotropheus johanni hybrids.
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Postby pancakeloach » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:49 pm

Saulosi don't have sloping foreheads like the yellow fish does, it's a definitely an M. estherae like Fogelhund says.

Acei are monomorphic, JK. :roll: But the body type does look right to me.

There's five different fish in those photos as far as I can tell. The egg spots are different if you look closely. I can give no help on 3, 4, and 5, I haven't kept any of those!
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Postby JKnPA » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:54 am

Fogelhund wrote:#1 - Yellow fish is a Metriaclima estherea.

Are you saying #2, 3 and 4 are the same fish?

#3, 4 are Pseudotropheus johanni hybrids.

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Sorry for the confusion........
These two.... meant the first two photos, not the two fish in the first photo.
I was trying to identify the yellow fish.
Last two photos....... same fish and much bigger than all others shown.
How can you tell it's a hybrid ???

** Just read your article ......... very nicely written.
I guess I should have taken some Latin in school besides German...... LOL.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/m ... landia.php
Thanks....
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Postby JKnPA » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:00 am

pancakeloach wrote:Saulosi don't have sloping foreheads like the yellow fish does, it's a definitely an M. estherae like Fogelhund says.

Acei are monomorphic, JK. :roll: But the body type does look right to me.

There's five different fish in those photos as far as I can tell. The egg spots are different if you look closely. I can give no help on 3, 4, and 5, I haven't kept any of those!

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Yes..... Four photos & five fish.......... sorry for the confusion !
Sometimes the writing comes out different than the thinking part...... LOL !

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Postby mike1234 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:53 am

The lower fish, and second pic are definately not Acei.. I've never seen stripes in mine, and I have 15 spanning 3 generations. It looks more like an Elongatus / Acei mix, though the second pic makes me wonder if its a poorly colored pure (I do have a few of those in a Misc. tank which arent too nice looking as of 2.5 inches).

The last one is also not a Demasoni. I'd go with Johanni as well, but as for cross I'd have no idea. (I don't keep them)

Also, a Demasoni is much smaller than an Elongatus. When I kept them, they never exceeded more than 3 inches. My dominant Elongatus is well into the 5 inch region. They also have alternating bands of black and blue, and do not have an overbearing background color (in your case its a black fish with blue markings)
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Postby JKnPA » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:15 am

mike1234 wrote:
The last one is also not a Demasoni. I'd go with Johanni as well, but as for cross I'd have no idea. (I don't keep them)

Also, a Demasoni is much smaller than an Elongatus. When I kept them, they never exceeded more than 3 inches. My dominant Elongatus is well into the 5 inch region. They also have alternating bands of black and blue, and do not have an overbearing background color (in your case its a black fish with blue markings)

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Mike..... thank you for your input. The last photo was a better shot of the fish. I didn't want to use a 'flash' on the camera, because I didn't want to scare the fish. Sometimes different shots produce different results and they can be deceptive.
I thought it might be P. elongatus, because it seemed very elongated compared to all the other cichlids I have seen. This fish is about 5 in. long.
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Postby D*N*R » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:21 am

Both males in profiles show stripes. My acei does not unless it gets really worked up. Last one johanni :thumb:
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Perhaps a Cynotilapia ???

Postby JKnPA » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:59 pm

Fogelhund wrote:#1 - Yellow fish is a Metriaclima estherea.

Are you saying #2, 3 and 4 are the same fish?

#3, 4 are Pseudotropheus johanni hybrids.

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After looking at the profiles section of the forum could the cichlid in the 3rd and 4th photo be
Cynotilapia mbamba or C. ndumi
Both species seem to be black (face) with blue verical stripes.
The former may reach 4", and the later 6" in length.
See link below for profiles.....

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/s ... php?id=696
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/s ... php?id=702
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Re: Perhaps a Cynotilapia ???

Postby Fogelhund » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:27 pm

JKnPA wrote:
Fogelhund wrote:#1 - Yellow fish is a Metriaclima estherea.

Are you saying #2, 3 and 4 are the same fish?

#3, 4 are Pseudotropheus johanni hybrids.

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After looking at the profiles section of the forum could the cichlid in the 3rd and 4th photo be
Cynotilapia mbamba or C. ndumi
Both species seem to be black (face) with blue verical stripes.
The former may reach 4", and the later 6" in length.
See link below for profiles.....

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/s ... php?id=696
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/s ... php?id=702
John


No, definitely not a Cynotilapia... johanni mix for certain.
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