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Planning a 125G 6feet for mbunas

Postby Zythum » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:35 pm

Hi,

After dealing with my girlfriend, I got the autoriazation for a 126G 6 feet instead of a 180G. But I will be able to make my reef 45G instead of 30G.

For the new tank, I will build the stand myself and include a 55G sump (48x13x20) with 2 wet dry for a total of 10G of coralife bioballs and 2 mag 7 return pump. Lighting will be my 2x T5-HO in a 14 inch high hood (I take my plans on www.garf.org). I already have a lot of rocks from my 2 previous tanks + 2 koralia powerheads. For the sand, I will try to get something darker than PFS, maybe aragonite. For the background, either black or blue, I am not sure yet.

A second stand beside will contain a 40G (36x13x20) for the water change and a 20G (30x12x12) for the evaporation. In the top part I will place my electrical panel and some storage space.

The goals:
- A lot of colour and movement
- Not too much maintenance
- Noiseless tank
- Cheap to run

The population, with a total water volume of 170G
8x Synodontis multipunctatus
1m/5f Labidochromis caeruleus (Mbowe)
1m/5f Pseudotropheus sp. "acei" (Itungi)
1m/5f Iodotropheus sprengeraes(Makokola Reef) Rusty cichlid
1m/5f Melanochromis cyaneorhabdos (Likoma Island)
1m/5f Pseudotropheus socolofi (Mara Point)
1m/5f Metriaclima sp. dolphin (Ndonga) (giant demasoni)

I wil post pics when I start, maybe in september, I have to finish unpacking and setting the place first.

Any comment suggestions?
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Postby DJRansome » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:47 pm

I'd do 1m:4f on the fish except for Maingano at 1m:7f and 6 on the Synodontis.
125G Aulonocara, Malawi Haps, Vics (trial), S Polli
75G Demasoni, Labs, Cyno hara, Met estherae, S Multipunctata
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Cyp Kerenge, S Petricola
33G Neo omnicaeruleus; 33G Flameback Kisumu; 33G P nyererei Igombe; 33G Hap ruby green
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Postby Fogelhund » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:33 pm

The dolphins can be a shy, not so aggressive fish. I'm not certain how well they'll do in this mix. Personally I'd be surprised if they coloured to their potential.
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Postby Rhinox » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:56 am

Yeah I'd skip on the socolofi if going with the dolphins. There won't be a lot of contrast between them and the dolphin females. The dolphins are a great fish but the females stay mostly a light to dark powdery blue color with faint bars, at least in my experience. Not sure if they'd color up more in a different setting. The males color up great though, especially as the become older and larger. In general, I've found them to be undeserving of their poor reputation around here of being shy, underwhelming fish. There've been times I've considered ditching my rusty and fuelliborni harems to keep a larger group of dolphins.
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Postby Zythum » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:38 pm

I've put the dolphin instead of the demasoni which are also striped vertically black and blue. Any othe fish that could replace the dolphin that is striped vertically and colourful (males and females)?

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Postby Kanorin » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:09 pm

Zythum wrote:I've put the dolphin instead of the demasoni which are also striped vertically black and blue. Any othe fish that could replace the dolphin that is striped vertically and colourful (males and females)?

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A few options that meet your criteria. The first two are common enough, but the last two would be tougher to find (definitely need to mail order).

Ps. Saulosi. Males are black/blue vertical striped, while the females are a yellow-orange. Note that the females are fairly close in color to yellow labs, though I wouldn't expect crossbreeding if your ratios are good.

Cynotilapia sp. Hara.

Metriaclima sp. Msobo 'Heteropictus'

Metriaclima flavifemina

*Edit: Upon rereading I noticed you have Mel. Cyaneorhabdos. I have had trouble in the past getting Met. Msobo to color up and breed in the presence of M. Cyaneorhabdos.
125G: All male
Haps: Steveni taiwan, pheno, spilo. tanzania, lithobates, cop. trewavasae, polystigma
Peacocks: Stuartgranti x3 (Cobue, Usisya, & Mdoka), baenschi, ruby red, bi-color,
+ Y. Lab & S. Multi
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Postby Zythum » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:48 pm

Hi,

I was looking at maybe doing a mixed (haps/peacocks/mbunas) malawi, but finally I will stick to mbunas. The tank will be a 125G 6 feet, that is my height limit (22 inches) because of a low ceiling in the basement (+ sump in stand with enough clearance to work in it).

Can you guys propose some mixes of 5-6 species of mbunas for a coulourful and a lot of movement tank. I will be putting around 100 river rocks (4-6 inches diameter), so a lot of hiding places. Just like the cookie cutter, but for a 125G, no dull colored females please.

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Postby DJRansome » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:42 pm

My mix in the 75G worked well in the 125G as well.

I also had female Metriaclima estherae, acei and socolofi from time to time.
125G Aulonocara, Malawi Haps, Vics (trial), S Polli
75G Demasoni, Labs, Cyno hara, Met estherae, S Multipunctata
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Cyp Kerenge, S Petricola
33G Neo omnicaeruleus; 33G Flameback Kisumu; 33G P nyererei Igombe; 33G Hap ruby green
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Postby Zythum » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:18 pm

Another idea of population. Is there a colourful metriaclama that could replace the socolofi?

6x Synodontis multipunctatus
1m/4f Labidochromis caeruleus (Mbowe)
1m/4f Pseudotropheus sp. "acei" (Itungi)
1m/4f Iodotropheus sprengeraes(Makokola Reef) Rusty cichlid
1m/5f Pseudotropheus socolofi (Mara Point)
12-15 Pseudotropheus Demasoni

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Postby The King Crabb » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:08 pm

I'd go with either Greshakei or Caillanos. Both the same color but a little larger and slightly more aggressive.
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Postby Zythum » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:43 pm

Ok, a little update.

I wasnt sure between mbunas and trying haps peacocks un groups, I've decided to go with mbunas,

A 125G tank 72x18x22 already drilled with ooverflows at each end
A 55G sump under the tank (homemade stand), Heaters 2x300W and 2 x return pump Mag7
Filtering is 2 wet dry with 5G bioballs each.
Lighting is 2x 60" T5-HO in a homemade top 14" high
I will paint the back and side black
For the sand, about 1.5 inches of Sahara sand from caribsea

A little update on the planned population. In order of introduction:
6x Synodontis multipunctatus
1m/4f Labidochromis caeruleus (Mbowe)
1m/4f Pseudotropheus sp. "acei" (Itungi)
1m/4f Iodotropheus sprengeraes (Makokola Reef) Rusty cichlid
1m/4f Pseudotropheus socolofi (Mara Point)
1m/6f Melanochromis cyaneorhabdos (Likoma Island)
12-15 Pseudotropheus demasoni

Suggestions, comments?

Thank you
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Postby nmcichlid-aholic » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:42 am

That looks like a very well balanced and interesting list. It should work fine - please post some photos once you've got it going. I'm working on rehabing a used 125 I got a deal on, so I look forward to seeing how yours turns out.
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Postby Zythum » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:58 pm

Hi,

I currently have tropheus Duboisi maswa but its not going as planned. I lost 10 out of my 28 that I started with, If I lose 6 more I will stick to my original plan.

Mbuna stocklist for my 125G:
6x Synodontis multipunctatus
1m/6f Labidochromis caeruleus (Lions cove)
1m/6f Pseudotropheus sp. "acei" (Msuli)
1m/6f Iodotropheus sprengeraes (Makokola Reef) Rusty cichlid
15 Pseudotropheus demasoni

What do you think of that mix?
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Postby DJRansome » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:08 pm

Looks great, but I'd up the demasoni to 20. What happened with the tropheus? Demasoni have similar issues sometimes.
125G Aulonocara, Malawi Haps, Vics (trial), S Polli
75G Demasoni, Labs, Cyno hara, Met estherae, S Multipunctata
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Cyp Kerenge, S Petricola
33G Neo omnicaeruleus; 33G Flameback Kisumu; 33G P nyererei Igombe; 33G Hap ruby green
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Postby Zythum » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:48 pm

My tropheus keep dying one after the other. I guess its agression and/or a parasite, it doesnt look like bloat.
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