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Postby DeadFishFloating » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:11 pm

Bruce Haynes wrote:Beautiful! Hey DeadFisfFloating. When you have fry from the Nannacara Anomala give me a shout I need females. I have a tank of males and need a bunch of females. The westies are beautiful...would love to have some of those. When you have fry give me a shout. I LOVE dwarf cichlids!


Hey Bruce, you aware I hope that I'm half a world away mate. :thumb:
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Postby DeadFishFloating » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:22 pm

Fevz wrote:Gorgeous dwarf cichlids!
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, since you are a dwarf cichlid expert. Is it possible to have a pair of any dwarf cichlids in a 9 gal. tank?


I'm hardly an expert, more like an enthusiast. As for a 9 gallon tank, it depends on which dwarf species you have in mind, the dimensions of the tank, how you aquascape the tank, is breeding and raising fry in the picture, and a range of other factors.

My tanks are all 20 Gallan High tanks, though I only fill to the about 11/12 inch mark. I have found some of the wild apisto and betta species are good jumpers.

I have seen 1 foot cube tanks used successfully for smaller species, but these were well scaped and had floating pipes in them. The pipes offer sanctuary for harrassed fish.
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Postby dwarfpike » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:17 pm

What happened to cac's looking like thugs DFF??? Traitor!!! :lol:

Nice to see you giving westies a try too. Overlooked they are. Now just need to get you into Badis and bettas. :D
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Postby DeadFishFloating » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:36 pm

Oh, some of the Cacas still look like back alley thugs, but those guys were a little different.

Now as for Bettas, I have a couple of pairs.

My male mahachai
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My male imbellis
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My male smaragdina
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Postby dwarfpike » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:13 pm

Great pose on the mahachai. Almost a perfect pic if not for the reflection. Any mouthbrooders yet, are just tipping the toe in with the bubblenesters?

I always found wild bettas to be good tankmates with dwarf cichlids. They together with your apistos or are you doing bio-themed tanks still?
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Postby DeadFishFloating » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:07 pm

Just sticking with splendens complex bettas for the moment. I pick up a pair of wild splendens this week as well.

The local "cichlid keepers" (read the guys who keep large SA and CA cichlids) call dwarf SA cichlids, Westies and Bettas, swamp guppies. So a few of us have a adopted the term and call ourselves swamp guppy keepers.

All my tanks are 2 footers, so I'm not comfortable mixing Bettas with dwarf cichlids. I also have limited tanks, so once I breed something I often move it on, and try the next dwarf that catches my eye.

It helps that we have a LFS that specialises in dwarf cichlids and Bettas. 75% of the tanks in the store are devoted dwarf cichlids and Bettas.
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Postby adam79 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:34 pm

dwarfpike wrote:What happened to cac's looking like thugs DFF??? Traitor!!! :lol:

Nice to see you giving westies a try too. Overlooked they are. Now just need to get you into Badis and bettas. :D


Must be a natural progression. Since I've been getting more into dwarf cichlids, I've found my self drawn to badis, dario, and betta.

BTW, DFF, have you kept A. viejita? I'm thinking about ordering some. Any thoughts on breeding?
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Postby DeadFishFloating » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:46 am

adam79 wrote:BTW, DFF, have you kept A. viejita? I'm thinking about ordering some. Any thoughts on breeding?


I haven't kept A. viejita. It's very doubtfull true viejita are even in the hobby. It is very, very common for A. macmasteri to be sold as viejita. If you talk to to the experts on apistogramma.com you will get the same story.

As for keeping and breeding any apistos, it's very much the same story for any species. Find out what conditions they are found in, in the wild and try and replicate them. Or if they are line bred, try and find out what conditions they were bred at.

I use rain water filtered through carbon to drop the hardness of my local water. (It's easy when you have access to 2,500 gallons of rain water, otherwise look into an RO unit) I have a water storage barrell with bag of Canadian sphagnum moss and a bag of Eheim efhi torf in it to help acidify the water. And I add one ketapang leaf to each tank when I do the weekly water change.
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Postby Isis24 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:07 pm

Didn't know you kept bettas! That first one is gorgeous!

adam79: I loooove darios too. I think they are the most beautiful nano fish I've seen.

Random comment, but today I picked up two sphaerichthys vaillanti. I am beyond excited. My Bolivians share their tank with a sparkling gourami, two licorice gouramis, and these two guys. :oops: They seem to get along. Dwarfpike, didn't you say once that you love those guys? I'll have to take a few pics and post them in my own thread here.
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Postby Fevz » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 pm

Well just to remind you. I bought myself a bigger tank for dwarf cichlids it's 12.5 gallon and i've put some checkerboard cichlids in it :)
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Postby Darkside » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:08 pm

Nice Bettas. :thumb:
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Postby dwarfpike » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:46 pm

DeadFishFloating wrote:Just sticking with splendens complex bettas for the moment. I pick up a pair of wild splendens this week as well.

It helps that we have a LFS that specialises in dwarf cichlids and Bettas. 75% of the tanks in the store are devoted dwarf cichlids and Bettas.


Just wait until you try your first mouth brooder. You'll deffinately get hooked. Soon you end up with the crown jewel of bettas, B. macrostoma.


And yeah, having a lfs that likes the small stuff is nice. Rare too. At least here.
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Postby dwarfpike » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:50 pm

adam79 wrote:Must be a natural progression. Since I've been getting more into dwarf cichlids, I've found my self drawn to badis, dario, and betta.


I think it is. Dwarf cichlid keepers generally plant their tanks, which often leads to planted biotope tanks ... which in SE Asian tanks often means badis and labrynth fish. Plus, at least around here, badis have often been refered to as 'asian apistos' in terms of attitude and behavior.
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Postby dwarfpike » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:54 pm

Isis24 wrote:Random comment, but today I picked up two sphaerichthys vaillanti. I am beyond excited. My Bolivians share their tank with a sparkling gourami, two licorice gouramis, and these two guys. :oops: They seem to get along. Dwarfpike, didn't you say once that you love those guys? I'll have to take a few pics and post them in my own thread here.


Deffinately post pics of them in general or photography!! 'cause yes, Vaillanti are my favorite of the various chocolate gouramis. Love sparklers too. Are the licorice common ones or did you get one of the rarer species? Ack, never mind, answer that in the photo thread so we aren't hijacking DFF's dwarf cichlid thread with labyrinth fish ((even if he was the one to post betta pics in here!!! :lol: ))
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Postby Fevz » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:51 pm

Here is a shoot of a young Dicrosus in my tank. The biggest male is to shy right now and won't show himself
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This is the full tank shoot
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