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mainganio
Joined: 20 Jul 2008
Location: australia
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: dithers |
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hi do you guys have any suggestions
on what i could use as dithers in a 119g
with a 7.5 inch red devil with a 11 inch Oscar
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oscars4me
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Derry New Hampshire USA
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Silver Dollars
Rainbow Fish
Giant Danios
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mok3t
Joined: 27 Nov 2008
Location: UK
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Wouldn't giant danios get swallowed by an oscar?
AND A Devil tbh?
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Strohs58
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Location: Castle Rock, CO
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I've tried Giant Danios in the past and they do start disapearing one by one. 
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Kevin Van Lith
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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2wheelsx2
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Burnaby, Canada
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't use Silver Dollars. They are horrid dither fish. Jumpy as all heck. They actually cause more stress with my cichlids than without. I would get rid of them in a heartbeat if someone would give me a reasonable amount for them and if I hadn't raised them from when they were 1 inch. |
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oscars4me
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Derry New Hampshire USA
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| 2wheelsx2 wrote: | | Don't use Silver Dollars. They are horrid dither fish. Jumpy as all heck. They actually cause more stress with my cichlids than without. I would get rid of them in a heartbeat if someone would give me a reasonable amount for them and if I hadn't raised them from when they were 1 inch. |
Hate to disagree but I have silver dollars in with both of my O's and they are the best clean up crew I've ever had. They are a little skittish at times but not enough to stress out an Oscar.
| Kevin Van Lith wrote: | Large Green and Gold Severums
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I don't consider these dithers and mbuna are African and require different water conditions.
Giant Danios max out at 4" I suppose a full grown O could swallow one but I doubt it.
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2wheelsx2
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| oscars4me wrote: |
Hate to disagree but I have silver dollars in with both of my O's and they are the best clean up crew I've ever had. They are a little skittish at times but not enough to stress out an Oscar.
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Do you have many? I've been told maybe 4 were not enough for their sense of security. As for cleanup crew, my catfish do a better job and take up less swimming space, but that's a personal preference thing. What size is your tank? That might have something to do with it too. Mine is a 125 that is heavily planted. I actually had one commit suicide during a water change by ramming itself into the glass (I started out with six, but one died within a week and the second committed suicide).
I am glad it's working for other people, but they just don't seem to work for me. |
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joel.uejio
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA USA
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I'm new to cichlids and dithers, but finding a strange situation is happening:
My firemouth (2") chases around my 7x sd's (3" each) during normal times, but actually gets intimidated by them at feeding time. The SD's are definitely hyper-active when motivated...
Just wanted to share my experience... |
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oscars4me
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Derry New Hampshire USA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| 2wheelsx2 wrote: | | oscars4me wrote: |
Hate to disagree but I have silver dollars in with both of my O's and they are the best clean up crew I've ever had. They are a little skittish at times but not enough to stress out an Oscar.
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Do you have many? I've been told maybe 4 were not enough for their sense of security. As for cleanup crew, my catfish do a better job and take up less swimming space, but that's a personal preference thing. What size is your tank? That might have something to do with it too. Mine is a 125 that is heavily planted. I actually had one commit suicide during a water change by ramming itself into the glass (I started out with six, but one died within a week and the second committed suicide).
I am glad it's working for other people, but they just don't seem to work for me. |
I have 5 sd's in with my tiger O along with a jd, a fm and a pleco in a 125 and 3 sd's and an fm in with my lute in a 75 (moving to a 90 soon). The sd's just stay out of everyones way and eat all the leftovers. Do you have Oscars in your 125? Just asking because O's don't normally get along with plants very well. 
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2wheelsx2
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Burnaby, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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I do have an O in my tank. Those SD's are actually harder on plants than the O. The plants are almost all ephiphytes (java Fern and Anubias). Here's a pic from about a month ago before I got some new plecos and EBJD's:
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oscars4me
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Derry New Hampshire USA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes sd's can be very hard on plants I'm surprised the O hasn't destroyed them tho. Nice looking tank you have.
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2wheelsx2
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Burnaby, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| With the CO2 injection, the plants grow faster than they can destroy them. Thanks for the compliment. |
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mainganio
Joined: 20 Jul 2008
Location: australia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the reply's everyone 
might try a couple of both rainbows and
silver dollars and see which ones work best.
how many of each these fish would you
recommend in the tank that I've got?
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2wheelsx2
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| I'd try 6 of each at least to get the desired effects. Too few, and you'll have to worry about excessive aggression towards one or two. |
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