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Postby cichlidaholic » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:26 am

You should be able to get the antiparasitic food anywhere that sells Jungle products. (WalMart here has it, as do most of the LFS.)

It's hard to determine what would be the best treatment method for the ich in his condition. The heat and salt could be just as stressful as using meds.

I think I would go with something like Quick Cure, and do daily water changes on the tank before administering the med. Formalin and malachite green seem to clear it up quicker than salt and heat, IME, and I'm not sure this guy can take the stress of raising the temp. There is an article on ich below my signature that will explain alot to you.

If you go with Quick Cure, ignore the package directions, treat with 1 drop per gallon daily and continue to do so for 3-4 days after seeing the last spot fall off.

Good luck!

(I would definitely go the food route to treat the fish for internal parasites if you have to use ich meds...I don't think he could handle the stress of treating the tank with two meds at once.)

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Postby dielikemoviestars » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:20 pm

Doesn't look like ich... Ich is usually much more widespread on the fish, and looks like grains of salt. Also, it's usually on the body, first.
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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:53 pm

i have not seen any on the body at all just on tail and the middle of the top fin.

it was just a little bump which was same color as the fins.

but this morning it was white.

what else could it be?

infection? from prior abuse?

maybe i will repost this in the disease section!
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Postby cichlidaholic » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:35 pm

If it's bumps rather than salt like spots, it may be from poor water quality in the past. The pics are hard to see, but if it's ich, he should be flashing against objects in the tank in an effort to "scratch" himself.

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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:07 pm

i have not noticed him scratching. but i shall observe him for a while and see.

i will report back with my findings later...
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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:24 pm

o.k. i watched him for a while and no, he did not flash just sort of staying in 1 spot , then after about 10 min. he moves to another spot and so on. just slowly swimming around from spot to spot and then seems like he is resting.

but i am going to the lfs to get some of that antiparasitic food. is there anything else i should get for him?

should i still do the ich meds just in case or ? :-?

and as far as the frequent water changes how often for this poor little guy.

also i remeasured and he is 6.25 inches.

thanks in advance!
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Postby mick74 » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:56 am

thats a nice fish mate hope everything go,s well :) :)
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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:39 am

thanks, me too!
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Postby cichlidaholic » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:39 am

No, if he's not flashing, don't use the ich meds. I've never seen a fish with ich not flash...

Keeping the water pristine may be all you need to do to help this guy out, but I would go ahead and pick up the medicated food, just as a preventative measure. They also have an antibacterial food (made by Jungle) that you might want to pick up and use AFTER a couple of weeks of feeding the antiparasitic food.

This guy looks like he's been through alot, and might need a lot of TLC to come back around. If he's been kept in really bad water conditions, treating him with the antibacterial food might be a smart move, and will be much easier on him physically than treating the water column.

Good luck!

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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:49 am

great! i really hope i can get this guy back in good condition again.
i printed out everything you said so i do not forget anything.
thank you so much for your help! he and i appreciate it!
cross your fingers and wish me luck!
:)
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Postby cichlidaholic » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:33 am

If you can keep get this guy healthy and happy and keep him that way, you will have truly accomplished something.

IMO, they are one of the most beautiful freshwater fish you can keep, but also probably the most difficult to keep in good health.

Good luck!

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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:03 am

o.k., i got the antiparasitic food and the antibacterial food yesterday. fed the antiparasitic food to him last night. he took a mouthfull, then spit it out! :o did that twice and stopped, i do not think he likes it. :( but this morning when i woke up, it was all gone. :) so i assume he ate it anyway. :-?

he will just have to learn to like it!! :)

thanks for all your great advice. :thumb:

i will be dancing up a storm if all this works!! :dancing: and i will keep yall up to date!!

smiles to all!

may all tanks be happy tanks!!
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Postby cichlidaholic » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:13 am

Did you try soaking the food in tank water for 20-30 minutes before feeding him? Then you can even mush it up with your fingers a bit and see if that helps.

Good luck!

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Postby FAMILYOFFISHLOVERS » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:58 am

O.K. , it has been a small while, i have fed him the anti parasitic food for for a week. and now i am going to switch the food to the anti bacterial. if you do not think this has been long enough for the anti parasitic, let me know. :?
the white bumps are now just bumps, same color as he is. and smaller in size. so whatever it was it is going away. :)

also on another note he is swimming around more than before. mostly when it is dark. :)
but if he sees me he runs and hides. :(

so it appears he is getting better. :)

i will keep yall posted!!!
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Postby cichlidaholic » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:53 am

That's good news.

Improving his water quality alone might have made the difference, but the medicated foods aren't going to hurt anything, and might prevent secondary problems.

I would go with the antibacterial for a week and then call it a day if he's still doing as well!

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