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Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby 20-20 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:01 am

This has been going on for a few days. Did a 50% water change yesterday. I use a homemade buffer to treat the water after a water change, with a 50% water change in the 75 gallon I use 3 tablespoons baking soda, 3 tablespoons epsom salts, and 1 tablespoon sea salt. This gets the ph to 8.2, kh to 16 (drops per test kit) and gh to about 16. Could this have anything to do with the issue? Been doing this for 3 months, no issues until now.

As far as treatment, Metronidazole or Clout?
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby jwm2k3 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:47 pm

Dont feed for a few days and monitor.
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby 20-20 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:10 pm

jwm2k3 wrote:Dont feed for a few days and monitor.



Without treating with any medicine?
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby DJRansome » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:16 pm

If you are thinking they have bloat, how do you think they got it? IME it usually starts with harassed fish that lurk under the surface or behind filter intakes or heaters.

If I remove either the victim or the aggressor(s) to another tank the victims usually recover with just peace and clean water...no treatment required.

As long as your pH has been stable for the 3 months, that should not be the cause. Especially with Epsom salts...that is a treatment for any intestinal issues. I'm thinking it might be something else.
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby Trademark » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:25 pm

IME ?
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby xgtphalex » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:22 pm

In my experience
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby Trademark » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:45 pm

Thx
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby 20-20 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:22 am

I didn't notice any overt hassling of any of the fish, other than the normal 'quick chase' that would occur, not centered on any one fish. The fish seem very lethargic, and a couple will stay behind the filter intakes. Didn't feed them last night, and am keeping the lights off. I won't feed them for a few days, keep the lights off, and just watch to see if any changes occur.
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby Iggy Newcastle » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:39 am

Other than in the thread title, I do not see any mention of the 'stringy white poop.' Are you seeing this?
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby 20-20 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:35 am

Iggy Newcastle wrote:Other than in the thread title, I do not see any mention of the 'stringy white poop.' Are you seeing this?



Some, not a lot. I haven't seen it actually coming out of a fish, just floating in the water.
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby DJRansome » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:42 pm

This is your evidence of harassed fish: and a couple will stay behind the filter intakes.

You want to stop the harassment (by separating the fish) and THEN observe and wait for improvement. If you make no stock changes, you are not likely to see improvement.
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby musang » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:25 am

thanks for the tips guys
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby 20-20 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:34 am

Yes, thanks to all for the assistance. So, after keeping the lights off and not feeding since Friday, the fish are still not eating. White stringy poop is hanging from a couple of them. One of them has the 'bloated' look. The super red empress is also 'coughing' as described in the linked article, and all the fish not eating have some of the symptoms described in that article. I assume my next step would be to start treating the tank with Metronidazole or Clout as soon as possible. No point in setting up a hospital tank as the number of affected fish don't really make that a good option. I just need to acquire the medicine, no decent local stores close by.
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Re: Four fish not eating, looks like white stringy poop...

Postby 20-20 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:52 am

Pays to look at what you've got on hand... I have some left-over API 'General Cure', which contains 250mg of metronidazole and 75mg proziquantel per dose, 4 doses left. I can start with that, and I know the local stores have it.
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