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Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:45 am

I love my Copadichromis, but the males don't always show good color for me.

I have a species tank of kawanga no-spot. I thought they were still immature (about 3" now, males just starting to color, females still have spots). But I have a holding female.

Anyone raise these? Do the males just have to be bigger? Do I just choose species that only color when doing the circle dance? The borleyi are not a problem, but chrysonotus and trewavasae don't show color as often as I would like.

Is there another Copadichromis that stays colored like the borleyi?
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby noki » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:07 pm

Don't know about Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot', but I should hope one male would color up for at least breeding. I think that the more open water away from some rocks the fish lives and breeds, the less likely to stay colored up.

Azureus has always been popular for a reason (at least before all of these junky variable "Peacock" hybrids became common), males hold their blue color well, more like an Aulonocara but not as much as the Fryeri.

Copidichromis mbenjii, which sometimes is called a type of Borleyi (and various confusing trade names over the years) but in Ad Konings latest book actually says the Mbenjii is more of a relative of the Azureus. Mbenjii hold color well, and they stay lighter than regular Borleyi and I don't think they should grow as big.
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby noki » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:14 pm

Mbenjii look shorter faced than Red Fin Borleyi... info on the web seems quite confusing

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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:44 pm

I had a fabulous chrysonotus once, but have not been able to get any other individual to stay colored.

Thanks noki...maybe azureus is next on my hit list.

As stated my current chrysonotus and kawanga are still smallish so I will see what happens when they grow some more.
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby Iggy Newcastle » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:29 pm

C. Trewavasae 'Lupingu' colored up for me at about 2.5" and stayed colored up. Were housed with some Aulonocara 'Red.' I faintly remember you telling me you had these already though, DJ...
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:18 pm

I did and same mix. But mine maybe did not like the red peacocks, IDK.
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75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby Fogelhund » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:16 pm

Ahh... Mloto flourescent... mine were always nearly fully coloured, but they are a fish that only shows "full" colour when showing off, though that is the case with many.
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby lilscoots » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:47 am

mine too, the no spot were colored only when dancing.
All male tanks are a pain. I miss all the color, but I don't miss the hassle.
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby Eugooglizer » Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:34 pm

I second the Azureus, mine is fully colored in an all male tank besides being near the bottom of the pecking order and has been since 3 inches. I also have a Copadichromis Geertsi in the same tank who is not fully colored, despite being all of 7 inches. He has the yellow/white blaze but does not have the beautiful midnight blue color.
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby Fogelhund » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:12 pm

How many males of the kawanga do you have?
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby DJRansome » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:08 am

Still young so not sure. I was surprised to have a female holding. When I clear out one of the fry tanks maybe I'll try taking out all but 5 fish...leaving the most obvious male and the 4 best guess females.
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby Fogelhund » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:10 am

DJRansome wrote:Still young so not sure. I was surprised to have a female holding. When I clear out one of the fry tanks maybe I'll try taking out all but 5 fish...leaving the most obvious male and the 4 best guess females.


I'd keep several males... three maybe... going to see more showing off that way.....
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby DJRansome » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:19 am

Then I will just wait to see what I have...it appears there will be more than one male.
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
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Re: Copadichromis sp. 'kawanga no-spot'

Postby BuckeyeTez » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:28 pm

My Azureus never really colored up until I added an OB Azureus and almost instantly he turned a beautiful blue. He is about 4.5" now.

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