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Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby clemsontiger » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:36 pm

I'm planning a 75 gallon mbuna tank with four species: Yellow Labs, Rusties, Snow Whites, and ... Dems or Afra Jalo Reef? I've always liked the Jalo Reefs but with the drab colors of the females I'm thinking Dems would make for a more striking scene.

Would one species work better with the aforementioned grouping?

Also, I've seen where it's suggested to have a group of 12 Dems. Does that mean 1m 11f? Does that throw off the 4 species in a 75 because of total number of fish.

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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby DJRansome » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:44 am

I would do Pseudotropheus cyaneohabdos Maingano for the bright blue instead of Demasoni or Jalo Reef. Or even Cynotilapia sp. hara if you like the lighter blue.

Demasoni are a lot of work unless you are really determined and yes...with demasoni you might want only 3 species.

In a 75G I like to have 15 demasoni after removing extra males.
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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby clemsontiger » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:03 pm

Thank you! Are Maingano considered a blue barred species or is that only for vertical striping?
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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby DJRansome » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:23 pm

Bars are vertical and stripes are horizontal in fish talk...and by definition as well I guess.
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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby Biciclid » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:21 am

Hi, I have C afra (now zebroides) Jalo Reef in one tank and Mainganos in the other, no doubt Mainganos have more vibrant colours, Jalo reef females are grey-bluish with faint barring and the male does look nice when fully coloured but it does not happen all the time. My Jalo Reef has anice temperament and so far -suprisingly- so do the mainganos, but I have just put in their tank 1/3 OB zebras hoping the male will be tank boss and so far it's wirking, probably because he looks big, scary and "tattoed" like a Yakuza Oyabun

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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby Biciclid » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:26 am

Alternatively you could have the mainganos and rusties then instead yellow labs you could get the yellow from saulosi females with the added bonus of the striking blue barred male, then you could do either white labs or perlmutts that are probably less belligerant than the snow white socolofi. Just my 2c
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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby clemsontiger » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:20 pm

I like the idea of Saulosi and Maingano with White Labs and Rusties. Is it a problem that they are both Pseudotropheus?
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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby Fogelhund » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:24 pm

clemsontiger wrote:I like the idea of Saulosi and Maingano with White Labs and Rusties. Is it a problem that they are both Pseudotropheus?


Not a problem that they are both classified in Pseudotropheus this week.
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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby ha77 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:53 pm

Fogelhund wrote:
clemsontiger wrote:I like the idea of Saulosi and Maingano with White Labs and Rusties. Is it a problem that they are both Pseudotropheus?


Not a problem that they are both classified in Pseudotropheus this week.

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Re: Demasoni vs Afra Jalo Reef

Postby noki » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:24 pm

Actually Saulosi is now Chindongo saulosi, so that is a different genus. I guess unless you don't accept that genus name.

Johanni/ Maingano types always seemed like Elongatus pretending to be Melanochomis, maybe they should be called Pseudomelanochromis.
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