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Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby graysilm » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:52 am

I am currently feeding my junvenile Mbuna cichlids Hikari Cichlid Gold mini pellets (which I am currently crushing because they are a little too big) 3 times a day with each feeding lasting about a minute before all the fish is consumed. I am also feeding them some 100% spirulina crunchies every few days. I always take one day off per week that I don't feed them at all. I am wondering if this Hikari Cichlid gold is too much protein for Mbuna Cichlids since I have read from some sources that they are primarily herbivores. Is this a bad food to be feeding my mbunas?
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby Biciclid » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:54 am

Personally I prefer to feed mbuna on food that has veggies and/or algae as the first ingredients rather than fish meal, wheat, soy, brewers yeast and shrimp meal. Over here in Europe we use a fair bit of local products (jbl novomalawi, tropical malawi or africa herbivore, shg hi green) but your side of the pond you have great veggie aimed foods made by NLS or North Fin, actually can't wait to get hold of some North Fin veggie here too. Ciao
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby DJRansome » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:12 am

Also note that although spirulina is a good food, like anything, a balanced diet is preferred. Both NLS and NorthFin contain spirulina and other high quality ingredients.
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby noki » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:11 pm

Yes, people try to feed foods light on protein and high on veggies hopefully. Don't worry, your fish are probably fine, you have not been hurting your fish with Hikari Gold.
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby Jnm230 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:36 pm

What's a good protein %
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby RayMontana » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:55 pm

I feed Hikari Sinking Chichlid Excel. Mini pellets. I tend to soak them in water first so they get eaten and not spit out..

THEN...I made a huge error. I added 6 tinfoil barbs to the tank..Not much gets past them at first. Catfish pellets, cichlid food...i have to feed double I normally would . I bought big floating pellets so they would chow down on those ..they do, doesnt slow them down much.
Needless to say they need to go.

My point is yes my cichlids do get pellets..my tank is heavily planted so they have that to gnaw on, and they do. I also put some flake in there when I put the pellets in for the tinfoils so they get that too.

I thought I was overfeeding but I get hardly anything from my substrate when vacuuming, numbers are improving...stabilizing, fish are happy and growing. My dang synodontis are 5 inches in four months from 1.5 when I got them..I feed them when its pitch dark in the house for an hour at least..obviously they are getting some food.probably getting too used to that to clean the tank anymore..this is the first time I've had them so....

Anybody need tinfoil barbs?? :oops:
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby DJRansome » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:41 pm

About 34% is good.
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby avatar2017 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:01 pm

Which is a better ?

NLS Algae MAX
Ingredients Algae; Chlorella, Ulva Seaweed, Red Seaweed, Kelp, Spirulina, Wakame Seaweed, Whole Antarctic Krill, Whole Fish, Eucheuma cottonii, Spinosum Seaweed, Chondrus crispus, Whole Wheat Flour, Omega-3 Fish Oil, Alfalfa, Astaxanthin, Capsanthin, Zeaxanthin, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Vitamin C), Choline Chloride, Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, and Manganese Sulfate.

Northfin Veggie Formula
Ingredients: Kelp, Whole Antarctic Krill Meal, High Omega-3 (DHA) Herring Meal, Whole Sardine Meal, Wheat Flour, Spirulina, Garlic, Astaxanthin (Haematococcus Algae), Calcium Montmorillonite Clay, Vitamin A Acetate, L-Ascorby-2-Polyphospate (Source of Vitamin C), D-Activated Animal-Sterol (D3), DL Alphatocopherol (E), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Thiamine, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Biotin, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Selenium, Zinc.
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby avatar2017 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:10 pm

These are more a complete brands for comparison. Which is better?

NLS Algae MAX
Ingredients Algae; Chlorella, Ulva Seaweed, Red Seaweed, Kelp, Spirulina, Wakame Seaweed, Whole Antarctic Krill, Whole Fish, Eucheuma cottonii, Spinosum Seaweed, Chondrus crispus, Whole Wheat Flour, Omega-3 Fish Oil, Alfalfa, Astaxanthin, Capsanthin, Zeaxanthin, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Vitamin C), Choline Chloride, Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, and Manganese Sulfate.

Northfin Veggie Formula
Ingredients: Kelp, Whole Antarctic Krill Meal, High Omega-3 (DHA) Herring Meal, Whole Sardine Meal, Wheat Flour, Spirulina, Garlic, Astaxanthin (Haematococcus Algae), Calcium Montmorillonite Clay, Vitamin A Acetate, L-Ascorby-2-Polyphospate (Source of Vitamin C), D-Activated Animal-Sterol (D3), DL Alphatocopherol (E), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Thiamine, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Biotin, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate,

Hikari Seaweed Extreme
Ingredients:Dried Seaweed Meal, Wheat Flour, Fish Meal, Krill Meal, Cuttlefish Meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Fish Oil, Sodium Alginate, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Sucrose Polyesters, Lecithin, Clam Extract, DL-Methionine, Astaxanthin, Garlic, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Stabilized Vitamin C), Inositol, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Niacin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Ferrous Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Iodate Manganese Sulfate, Selenium, Zinc.

Omega Super veggie
Ingredients: Whole Kelp, Spirulina, Whole Salmon, Halibut, Seafood Mix (Including Krill, Whole Herring, & Shrimp), Wheat Flour, Wheat Gluten, Lecithin, Astaxanthin, L-Ascorbyl-2-Phosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Natural and Artificial Colors, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Folic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Tocopherol (Preservative), Ethoxyquin (Preservative).


Tetra algae wafer Extreme
Ingredients:Wheat Germ Meal, Feeding Oat Meal, Corn Starch, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Cellulose, Potato Protein, Dried Yeast, Wheat Gluten, Algae Meal, Soybean Oil, Monobasic Calcium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Yeast Extract, Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C), Inositol, Niacin, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, A-Tocopherol-Acetate (Source of Vitamin E), D-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin-5-Phosphate (Source of Vitamin B2), Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin A Palmitate (Source of Vitamin A), Biotin, Cyanocobalamin (Source of Vitamin B12), Cholecalciferol (Source of Vitamin D3), Manganese Sulfate Monohydrate, Zinc Sulfate Monohydrate, Ferrous Sulfate Monohydrate, Cobalt Nitrate Hexahydrate, Color Includes: Blue No. 2 Lake, Yellow No. 5 Lake, Yellow No. 6 Lake, and Ethoxyquin as a preservative.

Aqueon
Algae Rounds Ingredients: Whole Fish Meal (Whole salmon, herring & other mixed fishes), Whole Wheat Flour, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Spirulina, Soybean Meal, Whole Dried Krill, Kelp Meal, Wheat Gluten Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Fish Oil, Spinach, Garlic, Dicalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Calcium, Propionate (a preservative), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin A, Acetate, Cholecalciferol (source of vitamin D3), Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Menadione Sodium Bisulphite Complex (source of vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Thiamine, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (B6), Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, DL-Alphatocopherol (E), Manganese Sulfate, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate.

Dainichi
Veggie Deluxe ingredients: Kelp, white fish meal, soybean meal, wheat flour, krill, spirulina, shrimp, wheat germ, calcium montmorillonite clay, brewer's yeast, powdered milk, vitamin mix, mineral mix, garlic, protease and natural gum.
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby wryan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:40 pm

Subjectively - or objectively - better ?

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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby daviddj » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:46 pm

Did you put the Tetra in to see who was paying attention
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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby Biciclid » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:47 pm

daviddj wrote:Did you put the Tetra in to see who was paying attention

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Re: Food for Mbuna cichlids

Postby Iamwho » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:30 pm

Like it or not, Tetras is still the most dominant force in the fish food industry.
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