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75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DutchAJ » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:37 pm

Hi All,

Really appreciate all of the knowledge and advice I've combed through on this site.

I just pulled the trigger on a 75 gallon (48x18x21) from a big box store, just couldn't pass up the deal.

I'll be posting a ton of questions and double checking things, so here's what first one:


Pseudotropheus saulosi are what I'm looking to base the tank around, I'm thinking ending with 3-4 males and 12 females, so start with 24 juvies ? Is 3-4 males ok?

Thinking 1 or 2 more species?
Iodotropheus sprengerae 1m/3f, start with 6?
Pseudotropheus acei 1m/3f, start with 6?

Any and all suggestions appreciated and welcomed. My goals:
- easier species
- nice color variety
- go well with p. saulosi
- I'll be going for a lot of rockwork...

Thanks all!
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby tanker3 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:42 pm

Those 3 species would be fine in a 75 gal, even with the numbers you are looking for.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby james1983 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:04 pm

They're a little more aggressive but I think snow white socolofi would look nice in place of the acei.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DutchAJ » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:46 pm

Thanks for the feedback! The Saulosi are the only ones I have my heart set on, so any species suggestions/combos (and numbers suggestions) people would pick for a 75g are appreciated. I hadn't looked at the Snow White socolofi before, thanks for the suggestion James.

Are the rusty's M/F ratio as important as with other mbuna? I feel like I've seen somewhere that they are more forgiving there?
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DJRansome » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:33 pm

Rusties are borderline...we used to say they were more peaceful, but enough people have reported "no so" that I would expect to end up with one male. See what happens.

If you want a white fish you could consider white labs. But I like the acei idea.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DutchAJ » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:07 pm

Well I finally got the tank setup and started the fishless cycle. Guessing I'll be ready to put the order in in around 4-6 weeks? I think I've settled on ordering:

24 saulosi
6-8 acei
5 rusties

I'm pretty excited as this is my first experience with mbuna, I'll get some pics up and I'm sure I'll have more questions. Really appreciate all the advice.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby tanker3 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:53 pm

Looks OK, but 6-8 Acei maybe pushing it for a 75gal. 4-5 sounds like a better number.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby dcchef103 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:01 pm

I'm currently doing a fish less cycle on my 60 gallon and looking for stocking options. I like this group that DutchAJ is doing...could I do the same types and just lower the numbers a touch? Perhaps, 16 saulosi, 3 acei, and 3 rusties?
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:24 pm

What are the dimensions of your 60G? Unless it is 48x18 maybe not. I'm also not usually a fan of trios.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby dcchef103 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:30 pm

DJRansome wrote:What are the dimensions of your 60G? Unless it is 48x18 maybe not. I'm also not usually a fan of trios.


It is a 48x18, which at least give ample swimming space horizontally. What would you recommend instead?
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:51 pm

So if it is 48x18 and same footprint as DutchAJ why not the same number of fish? Is your tank a rectangle or another shape? Bow front tanks are different.

I would recommend (after removing extra males)
3m:9f Chindongo saulosi
1m:4f Pseudotropheus Acei
1m:4f Iodotropheus sprengerae

You will likely have to buy more unsexed juvenile fish to arrive at those final numbers, and then rehome extra males as they mature and if they cause trouble (trouble including the fact that extra males may result in no males coloring up well).
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby dcchef103 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:24 pm

I apologize, it's 48x13. I just remeasured. And it's rectangular. Thanks for the advice!
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DJRansome » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:31 pm

OK then you don't want acei. But you could do the other 2 in those numbers.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby tanker3 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:30 pm

I would move the Saulosi into the 60gal, and then add another species or 2 into the 75gal.
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Re: 75 gallon stocking advice

Postby DutchAJ » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:26 pm

Thought I would post a couple more pics in this thread of my final stocking:

Have 6 female Saulosi, this one seems to be in charge of the whole tank most of the time:
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10 juvenile Saulosi
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1 male
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7 yellow tail acei (luwala) Image

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And 7 rusties
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Was really happy with the vendor, being my first fish by mail and African cichlid experience.
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